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Gay book ban goal of (Alabama) state lawmaker
Birmingham News ^ | 12/1/04 | KIM CHANDLER

Posted on 12/01/2004 3:48:43 PM PST by pete anderson

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To: HostileTerritory
The article States:

Allen said that meant books with heterosexual couples committing those acts likely would be banned, too.

41 posted on 12/01/2004 4:33:19 PM PST by pete anderson
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To: pete anderson

That would be a BLESSING, as far as I am concerned....Bill Clinton is an embarrassment......


42 posted on 12/01/2004 4:35:54 PM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Sic Semper Tyrannis!)
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To: TexConfederate1861

"The Feds need to keep out of it."

I guess I missed that part of the article. How are the feds involved again?


43 posted on 12/01/2004 4:36:24 PM PST by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: Ignatius J Reilly

Someone was suggesting Supreme Court, etc.


44 posted on 12/01/2004 4:37:12 PM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Sic Semper Tyrannis!)
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To: TexConfederate1861
How about the Bible, I have seen it on the shelf of a public university library. Are you willing to toss the Bible in a hole as well?

I hope not...

45 posted on 12/01/2004 4:37:17 PM PST by pete anderson
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To: TexConfederate1861
Society sets the moral standard. It is an issue of STATE's RIGHTS.

Nope. The Constitution sets states' rights. And the 1st Amendment is guaranteed to all citizens (see the 14th Amendment).

You have to understand, you can't just scream out "states' rights" any time you feel like trashing civil liberties. You actually have to check with the Constitution to see what rights states have.

46 posted on 12/01/2004 4:37:25 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: pete anderson

Screw him. This is nothing but censorship.


47 posted on 12/01/2004 4:38:29 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Lurking Libertarian wrote:

If Hillary Clinton is elected president and proposes a law saying that no public school or public library may have any books that portray Republicans in a positive light, you will agree that that would be constitutional?

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Except the law does not state that a library cannot have such a book on it's shelves, it only states that public funds cannot be used to purchase the book. Therefore, I don't think it would be unconstitutional for a law that prohibits the funding of books that promote conservatism. It would be somewhat stupid, such as this law would be.

You see, the law does not ban anything, it only makes the use of public funds to acquire the literature unlawful. Big difference.


48 posted on 12/01/2004 4:40:05 PM PST by phoenix0468 (One man with courage is a majority. (Thomas Jefferson))
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To: pete anderson
Are you willing to toss the Bible in a hole as well?

The Bible fails the test of not including any sodomy.

49 posted on 12/01/2004 4:41:44 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: TexConfederate1861
I'm not ashamed in the least. I am a CHRISTIAN Conservative. Society sets the moral standard. It is an issue of STATE's RIGHTS. If Alabama chooses to ban homosexual books, etc. that is their right. The Feds need to keep out of it. The people who choose to read such trash can move to another state......

And if California and Massachusetts ban the Bible as hate speech, that's fine with you?

50 posted on 12/01/2004 4:41:52 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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pete anderson wrote:
How about the Bible, I have seen it on the shelf of a public university library. Are you willing to toss the Bible in a hole as well?
I hope not...

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I am going to find every idiotic "ban" post on this thread and reiterate that the law ban's nothing but the use of funds to purchase said literature. Personally I don't agree with the law, but it does neither censor nor ban any literary work.


51 posted on 12/01/2004 4:42:35 PM PST by phoenix0468 (One man with courage is a majority. (Thomas Jefferson))
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pete anderson wrote:
Does this mean that Lynn Cheney's book will be burned in Alabama?

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I am going to find every idiotic "ban" post on this thread and reiterate that the law ban's nothing but the use of funds to purchase said literature. Personally I don't agree with the law, but it does neither censor nor ban any literary work.


52 posted on 12/01/2004 4:43:37 PM PST by phoenix0468 (One man with courage is a majority. (Thomas Jefferson))
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They want to Pull Books off the Shelf that have already been purchased and bury them.


53 posted on 12/01/2004 4:45:39 PM PST by pete anderson
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This is Bama's decision, but I couldn't support that here.

I have no use for the gay agenda, but I have a bigger problem with a FREEDOM GRABBING agenda. What's next? Ban books with guns in them? For the children...of course.

Bill like this also create sympathy for the gay agenda. They made their big mistake by overstepping their bounds on marriage. This is the other way.

54 posted on 12/01/2004 4:49:09 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("now we got this guy in the Oval office who don't take no sh*t from no gimpy little countries!")
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To: phoenix0468
Except the law does not state that a library cannot have such a book on it's shelves, it only states that public funds cannot be used to purchase the book.

From the article:

"Allen said that if his bill passes, novels with gay protagonists and college textbooks that suggest homosexuality is natural would have to be removed from library shelves and destroyed."

55 posted on 12/01/2004 4:50:11 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: pete anderson
pete anderson wrote:
They want to Pull Books off the Shelf that have already been purchased and bury them.

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Well, the author of the article obviously failed to quote the entirety of the bill. The part that she did quote says nothing about banning anything. So either the lawmaker is being misquoted, which is highly possible; or the lawmaker is a complete idiot, which is also highly possible.

I never said I like the bill or am for it, I only stated that the working of the bill does not ban anything but the use of funds to purchase such literature.
56 posted on 12/01/2004 4:54:52 PM PST by phoenix0468 (One man with courage is a majority. (Thomas Jefferson))
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Lurking Libertarian wrote:
From the article:

"Allen said that if his bill passes, novels with gay protagonists and college textbooks that suggest homosexuality is natural would have to be removed from library shelves and destroyed."

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Well, the author of the article obviously failed to quote the entirety of the bill. The part that she did quote says nothing about banning anything. So either the lawmaker is being misquoted, which is highly possible; or the lawmaker is a complete idiot, which is also highly possible.

I never said I like the bill or am for it, I only stated that the working of the bill does not ban anything but the use of funds to purchase such literature.


57 posted on 12/01/2004 4:57:01 PM PST by phoenix0468 (One man with courage is a majority. (Thomas Jefferson))
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To: Dan from Michigan
No more books on guns, God, Politics, Crime, History, Science or Medicine because, somebody may get OFFENDED!

Talk about a One Way Ticket to the Dark Ages.

58 posted on 12/01/2004 5:45:34 PM PST by pete anderson
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To: phoenix0468
So either the lawmaker is being misquoted, which is highly possible; or the lawmaker is a complete idiot, which is also highly possible.

I'll take door #2.

59 posted on 12/01/2004 5:47:03 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: pete anderson

I don't remember any homosexuality in Catcher. Was there?


60 posted on 12/01/2004 5:47:30 PM PST by Stratman
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