One Nation Under God....Isn't This Obvious?

Rare Jewel ^ | Dec. 1, 2004 | Tim Ewing

[Lindykim]

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[EdReform]

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[Montresor]

Im not agaisnt this "Under God" stuff, but this isn't one of those traditions that have been around since the time of our founding. This line was put in the pledge to contrast atheistic communism. But seariously folks, there are a lot of things we need to perserve and take back... this is at the bottom of my list. Quit whinning about this until something acutally happens. I just don't want the court taking it out. If our congress did it I would have no problem.

[pickemuphere]

Hey, there are plenty of righties who also approach the whole politics/religion thing with a healthy dose of paranoia.

[EdReform]

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-- John Adams, October 11, 1798

[LauraleeBraswell]

Article [I.] (See Note 13)

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

Congress: AS IN THE NATIONAL RULING BODY

ESTABLISHMENT of Religion: NOUN, As in the Catholic Church, The Church of England, The Greek Orthodox Church



So basically the National Ruling body Is not allowed to declare an official Church of the USA, or an Establishment of Religion.

That doesn't mean religion in general, and let us look further

Article [X.]

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

So basically you can have a state religion.


Look at the Historical Context of it. Pennsylvania was founded by William Penn for the Quakers, Maryland (Catholics)the list goes on.

[cripplecreek]

Liberals are trying to pretend that there has been some kind of vast oppressive Christian uprising in recent years.

That fails to explain why my great grandmother went to school in a 1 room schoolgouse that was also the church. That building also served as the local meeting place for all community functions.

The township offices of the town I live in are in the basement of the church, right where they've been since the township was incorporated in the 1880s. I voted there.

[LauraleeBraswell]

I would like to add that I don't know why people warp the original meaning of the Constitution.

All it says is, that our national ruling body cannot declare an institution of religion.

[oldtimer]

I am proudly driving around with a bumper sticker that says Merry CHRISTmas not Happy Holidays.

Lefty libs can go pound sand.

[shubi]

I guess we need to deport the left.

[little jeremiah]

Moral Absolutes ping.

The writer is correct. This country was indeed founded on the moral principles which are consistent not only with the Bible but every theist religion in the world.

"Reading, reflection and time have convinced me that the interests of society require the observation of those moral precepts ... in which all religions agree." --Thomas Jefferson

People like bandy about the word "Deist" when referring to a number of the founders of this country. My response is, "So what?" They believed in God, and in the moral and spiritual principles in the Bible. Who care what denomination they did or did not belong to?

Jefferson in particular was careful, in his writings, to include all religions under the umbrella of religious freedom.

The moral principles that are the very foundation of human life are now under assault by leftists/secularists/hedonists/homosexual activists/etc etc. What are we going to do about it?

The Islamic jihadis are actually not as dangerous as those who want to destroy the moral foundation of this country. Actually they want to see the whole world go to hell. If America falls, others will as well.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.

[little jeremiah]

Hmm - I guess I know little about Deists, then. I thought they believed in God as a basic.

[little jeremiah]

Ah, I get it. So "God" can be either objective or subjective - kind of like the "I am God" philosophy.