Something for the "Old School" among us.
Posted on 11/30/2004 9:13:27 PM PST by Delta 21
Thanks for the suggestions... I can see how the smaller size and the contoured shape of the P232 may make it more convenient and comfortable for carrying in a holster than a P226. At this time I don't have a need to carry other than between my home and the range, although that could change. My immediate interest is in becoming more proficient and knowledgeable about shooting generally, and will probably try out a number of different guns before I actually make a purchase decision. The ultimate goal would be both to have a pistol at home for just-in-case protection, and to learn to shoot with accuracy. A lot to learn...
"And if your gonna carry for defence, cocked and locked, ready to go."
Right on, my old 1943 Remington Rand 1911A1 is carried so, with one additional safety, the holster quick release hold down strap is a good snug fit between the hammer and that firing pin.
That 1911A1 is my long time bud of many years, even in near total darkness, it knows where to point and hit when squeezed off.
H&K USP .45 in a BladeTech paddle holster..........the ultimate concealed carry gun for me.
One idea that you should keep in the back of your head is the availabilty of ammo. IMHO besides .22 LR for the most concealability, the most likely, available ammo for handguns are .38 Special/.38 Plus P/.357 Magnum (for 6 shot revolvers), 9mm and .45 Auto. Nobody complains the that .357 Magnum or .45 Auto doesn't have stopping power. If you haven't noticed, many folks complain that 9mm is too weak. I wouldn't recommend .25 Auto weapons to anyone.
Without question, revolvers(aka wheelguns) are more reliable than semi-automatic handguns. Semi-automatic handguns, autos in handgun parlance, have the advantage almost all the time in ammunition capacity. Their problem seems to be with magazine springs and cleanliness.
According to comment# 49, IIRC, the same handgun can also fire 9mm ammo with another chamber and barrel combo(probably one piece). I don't know Sigs, but if that's true, that's a definite plus.
Call up the West Side Rifle and Pistol Range, 20 W. 20th St. in Manhattan. See what they offer for safety training and familiarization. I'm not a member. I aint been there in years. Check Edelman's on the island. Make sure you're comfortable before you pay for it.
Springfield XD40 in SW40 is lock and load no hammer. Safety is grip and trigger, it will not fire if dropped.
NRA 2003 gun of the year
Mine was accurate first shot Bullseye at 25 yards.
BS.
I like the 229, but my only complaint is that it's too thick.
You can't go wrong with a 226 or a 229. Check out the guns made my other manufacturers also, such as Springfield, H&K, Glock, and Beretta.
All of the major combat handguns perform more or less the same (as far as functionality and reliability goes), so base your decision on what feels best in your hand.
As far as caliber, don't go any smaller than 9mm.
I've never put much faith in "stopping power" stats. Look at the kinetic energy of the bullet. I believe the 9mm cartridge (which according to some is not powerful enough) has about twice as much energy as the .380.
In fact, MagSafe's lowest-powered .380 ACP load had an AIT faster than the best manstopper of all time - Remington's .357 Magnum 125-grain JHP!"
Remind me to never buy ammo from these guys. That is simply an absurd claim to make.
With so many compact 9mm pistols now available, I just don't see much use for the .380 anymore.
My heart melts...
Something for the "Old School" among us.
Somebody let the author know the AWB expired.
Is this company any kin to JP Sauer & Sohn from what was once West Germany?
---I like the 229, but my only complaint is that it's too thick.---
That's why there's a 239.
And a light.
I will take a look at the P232 the next time that I visit my local gun shop. It looks like it is lighter in weight and more easily concealable than the P226, although I suppose that it comes at the expense of limited magazine capacity. Scully and Mulder carried their P226's around all the time, and it seems like they had their pistols drawn more often than concealed. Somehow I don't think that I could get away with pulling off that trick.
BS.
In far too many states, including California, home of 20% of American citizens, that's still true.
Navy S.E.A.L.s also use the Sig Sauer P229. I don't know why they insist on using 9 x 19 round, but the .40 S&W also has adequate stopping power. Sig Sauer P229 has a model that fires .40 S&W.
I feel quite comfortable carrying .45 ACP or .40 S&W.
You are definately right about MagSafe claiming that their .380 ACP round has as much stopping power as a .357 Magnum. That is a crock of crap.
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