Posted on 11/30/2004 11:52:15 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
That might go a long way to your edification.
These are the two biggies passed under Richard Nixon's administration that seriously need to be closely reexamined. The NEPA requires Federal agencies to examine how their proposals for action will affect the human environment but species listings by the USFWS and NMFS pursuant to the ESA essentially circumvent the NEPA requirements for the Federal agency to examine economic impacts of their action. Also NEPA requires public dislosure and participation in the decision-making process. ESA does not.
Muleteam1
Nixon created environmental and Democrats have tried to exploit it. Now, like other issues, it's liberals looking for a cause and are indifferent as to the effect. No thinking, no science, just something for them to fight for and draw attention to their incomplete lives.
"Environmentalists see some of their worst fears playing out ..."
I see dumb people.
Wonderful!
When I see the millions of them walking along the highways (foraging for food along the way?) to their next demonstration, I'll take them seriously.
The main reason it should be done is for security. Besides the oil there is natural gas. A pipeline running parallel to the Alaska oil pipeline could carry LNG to Valdez where it could be shipped to the lower 48 and used as the cleanest burning fuel for heating,etc. If you do some research and read information other than propaganda from the Sierra Club, Greenpeace,etc., you'll see there are very few negatives and many positives for drilling in ANWR.
Maybe there's hope for reducing the deer herd down here in Missouri. We're overrun with the critters.
This speaks the truth about enviroschizophrenia,ITS ALL IMAGINARY.
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry or both at their stupid tinfoil responses. You see, Bush has implemented a sinister and evil weapon, sonar that blows out the eardrums of whales and dolphins as uncaring imperialist warmongering sailors laugh and shoot their carcasses.
"All the whales will soon be killed by this device. Bush is the first human to deploy this underwater weapon."
"His destructive nature just never stops hurting innocents."
"Bush and his ilk in the oil companies. I am so sad and angry. It just never stops."
"if there's any justice in the world, next time Bush goes on an Aircraft carrier he'll fall off the side and get eaten by a whale."
"I'm ashamed to be human in this modern society. I've tried. I've tried my best."
Are they insane, or merely crazy? I rest my case.
I still come back to "How much is there there compared to what we use?" If what's there is virtually only a drop in the bucket, why drill?
The air is in trouble. The water is in trouble. Volcanoes, earthquakes, and hurricanes are in trouble. The moon and Mars are in trouble. The sun is in trouble. Christmas is in trouble. Blame must be placed.
oh no, Mr. Bill ! We're all gonna die!!!.....
The developer can produce 6 billion barrels of oil. That oil can be sold for some price and at some cost including development. If it provides net income the operation would be called profitable. That is the consideration, not whether it would affect gasoline prices somewhere sometime. It's a business, the oil business.
-Halliburton
That has got to be some of the funniest **** I've seen come from there.
I'm beginning to think being a liberal isn't learned but a genetic defect.
In 2003 according to the Dept. of Energy we consumed approximately 20 million barrels per day. Present estimates are that ANWR could produce 1.4 million barrels per day. Do some Google searches and check out ANWR.org. Do you think 1.4 million barrels per day is a drop in the bucket?
The oil business is certainly just that. But this is not private land, it is a wildlife preserve. The value of maintaining it as a wildlife preserve, which is not totally quantifiable, thus has to be balanced against the profits to be obtained by extracting and selling the oil and gas.
Best news of the week (except for the great progress in eradicating terrorist vermin in Iraq).
I have been there. It looks to me like oil development will have no impact on the environment or the creatures. In 20 years the oil field will be sucked dry and the gravel pads will eventually disappear, covered by the same kind of vegetation and creatures that are there now. There is no tradeoff. Produce the oil.
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