Posted on 11/30/2004 11:17:14 AM PST by Pyro7480
Have you considered Christendom? How long have you got to decide?
Another slip down the slippery slope. Hitler would be proud.
It's legal to do it for free and people go to some bars for precisely this sort of service, with little stigma in this day and age. The only difference is whether money is being exchanged.
They're probably already doing that - technically, we're all "terminal", and Down's etc. are lifelong illnesses.
No, they bear their children and then wait for them to get big enough to strap bombs to themselves and murder in the name of Allah.
She is anxious to go to a school where there's a core of conservative students. The scuttlebutt I had heard was that Davidson is considerably more liberal than W&L. Glad to hear there are conservatives there - my daughter is somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun . . .
I'm a little concerned because there's no Catholic church near Davidson - there is a parish in the next town down the road, but I know what a fuss and bother it is to find a ride especially when you're a freshman. There is a Sunday night Mass in the chapel, but when I was at college I never did like that - and I can't imagine a Mass celebrated in a Presbyterian chapel . . . well, really I can because I also went to a Presbyterian school - but I'm not sure I like it. . . .
W&L on the other hand has a Catholic parish literally at the corner of the campus. Not to mention every denomination you can think of in town (including a breakaway Anglican congregation in a church that looks like it ought to be on a model railway layout).
On the other hand, the Davidson campus is gorgeous and beautifully cared for, and the Universal Loaner Bicycles are a very nice touch.
Ultimately the decision is my daughter's (within reason), and of course the colleges in question . . . although she's making good grades at a hard school and she just got her first SAT score (she's a junior) 800/650 . . . yeah the math needs work, but she's no more math-oriented than I am.
Unless we, as a country, affirm the right to life from the womb to the grave... your prognostication is the only logical course that we are on.
No one will ever admit that this is all about economics. Unwanted babies, the handicapped, the imprisoned, and the elderly/convalescent are all drains on the economy because they are not 'producers'. They are drains on personal lives because they are also drains on personal economies.
Hence, "inconvenience".
This is appalling, but not surprising. As Europe writes its own death warrant, we're not far behind.
The biggest problem with social security is we stupid people are living to damn long. Nice system.
Not using extra-ordinary measure to keep alive an infant who will never survive is NOT the same as killing it.
If a child will never survive why prolong its agony?
I'm concerned about Christendom from the point of view of academic rigor. Their median SAT scores for admitted freshmen seem relatively low, as does the required GPA. But on the other hand those indicators can be deceptive . . .
"If you don't see the similarities to Nazi Germany, then you're blind."
Rather than hurling invectives, try answering the question I posed without Hitlerian references.
Understood. But then again, if someone gets "dinner and a movie" and then spends the night with their date, the IRS doesn't consider it taxable income!!! :)
It wasn't invective. It was truth. In Nazi Germany, they executed deemed "inconvenient." They're now reaching that point in the Netherlands, where you can now decide to kill someone who "can't decide for themselves."
This is not euthanasia but a choice not to prolong an impending death. Euthanasia is actively killing a human being by passive or active means. The difference in treatment lies between prolonging life and prolonging death.
chilling!
You should be very proud :)
"I hear you. I also hear the ones wary of the slippery slope. I know that if I were terminally ill, and there was no way to relieve my pain, I do not want to linger nor do I want someone forcing me to."
Wow - someone who answered my post without Hitlerian references and in a rational manner! Thanks!
I agree too that I should be able to choose the method of my passing if I don't want to linger in pain and spend all the money of my family on keeping me in a vegetative, unproductive, unlivable state.
What's amusing is that if you polled the people in this thread on whether they'd want their tax dollars to help raise these permanently, severely handicapped people who'll never contribute to society, I bet you'd get a huge percentage AGAINST funding such health care initiatives. The alternative is to force the family to pay for this expensive care and ultimately -- and quickly -- break them and force them to live off the gov't.
My views on abortion usually end up pleasing no one, and I have posted them before. But one thing which always struck me is the argument that "the baby isn't wanted" as a reason for abortion. I always said that argument didn't hold water, because it COULD be applied to the old age home, etc. etc. etc.
I thought my comment in those discussions was a warning - not a prediction!
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