One Volk! One Reich! One Euro! (Fourth Reich rising)

Richard Poe ^ | July 12, 2002 | Richard Poe

[mysto]

The SS was a cross Europe army The problem is the EU doesn't have an army (yet). The Germans don't really have much of a standing army, but that doesn't mean they can't form a new one... their government would have to stop paying for medical care & welfare, & the workers would probably have to give up their 4 weeks paid vacation first... but I guess it could happen.
As for the French, I'm not worried about their military. The only problem with fighting the French is where to put all the French POWs who surrender en masse after we fire the first shot...

[mysto]

A big factor in the creation of the EU was to mitigate against future war AMONG the EU states.
The EU was not created to be a military organization. That's what NATO was designed for. The EU evolved from the common market and the European Economic Community. The key word there is "economic". It was not until later, after the Maastricht Treaty was written, that the French & Germans started talking about a common defense policy for Europe. The EU nations are already fighting among themselves over what this "common defense policy" should be. They can't even agree on Iraq...

[AMDG&BVMH]

Yes, but it is not so much a common (external) defense policy, but a Europe integrated economically, etc., which would make is much less likely for, e.g. France and Germany to go to war with each other again.

[Tacis]

Actually, it will be the 5th Reich. Hitler was the 3rd Reich. The post war democracy to today, is the 4th Reich and the German control of all of Europe will be the 5th Reich.

The plan is however, that the Euro will weaken so badly and the financial controls surrounding the European Union, i.e., GDP, inflation and debt rtatios, become so unworkable that reintroduction of the Deutsch Mark would be the only way to recover. German money would be followed by German language and then German control. You KNOW the French won't oppose them.

Hitler foresaw the 3rd Reich lasting 1,000 years. The builders of the 5th Reich have no problem with taking 50 years to establish it.

[mysto]

You obvoiusly haven't been listening to Chirac lately when he taks about "multipolarism" & how he thinks the US should not be the world's lone superpower. The EU may prevent war between France & Germany, but the way Chirac talks, I think he has bigger fish to fry. He lusts for power, and he sees his ticket to greater power as the EU.

[mysto]

You KNOW the French won't oppose them.
But the US & Russia will...

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[AMDG&BVMH]

" Chirac talks, I think he has bigger fish to fry. He lusts for power, and he sees his ticket to greater power as the EU."

Chirac rhymes with Iraq, and for good reason . . . he was a supporter of that regime before he gained his present position.

I believe your assessment of Chirac. However, that is not what Adenauer and DeGaulle had in mind in terms of reapproachment; nor of Kohl in fighting for the EU.

That, the EU, MIGHT be indeed a mistake: a socialized monstrosity. Many who supported its creation, however, did so for the ideal of peace in Europe.

[mysto]

That, the EU, MIGHT be indeed a mistake: a socialized monstrosity.
If the EU becomes what Chirac, Schroeder and his cronies want it to become, then it would be a monstrosity. I agree with you that the intent of the EU was to foster peace, but as the EU moves towards becoming a military alliance and diminishing the importance of NATO, I don't think the result will be a lasting peace. The US, and particularly Russia, would see a EU with a full army as a threat. However, with its socialist policies, I don't see how the EU would sustain itself economically. I think it would end up, not like the Third Reich, but more like the old Holy Roman Empire (the First Reich). The EU would become a confederation of states that ultimately implodes upon itself.

[AMDG&BVMH]

"The EU would become a confederation of states that ultimately implodes upon itself."

With all their socialist overhead, no doubt. AND they are just getting started, so to speak! They will not likely develop a full military capability to challenge us or Russia -- they don't/won't have the money to do it, because of all their social policies and overhead.

HOWEVER, as you note, if the wrong (power hungry) guy or crowd gets influence over that WHOLE entity, it could bode ill.