Posted on 11/28/2004 5:17:33 PM PST by nj26
This is the same crowd that has allowed the Dems to switch Lautenburg for Torricelli in 2002, and couldn't manage to force a special election out of the McGreevey scandal. And not particularly effective in contributing to the Bush reelection bid, either.
I was very sorry that the national party didn't back Bret Schundler last time around. Would he have any chance of winning if he ran again? He'd be a great governor.
And thus it will continue, all over the Nation, until the "people" throw the ruling political fat cat class out of their party "leadership" roles.
This applies to BOTH major parties.
Nothing has changed and I doubt anything will change.
Corzine will spend whatever it takes to become Governor.
The fraud machine is well oiled in this state.
I guess that makes Reagan, Nixon, Thune, etc., ad infinitum, "perennial losers."
Allowed? The corrupt liberal NJ Supremes allowed the switch, totally disregarding the perfectly clear law that was on the books. Of course, the court's rationale that voters needed to be given a "choice" was not employed when McGreevey left and Codey got to be governor for the remaining year in his term. Actually, the Codey case followed the actual law since McGreevey didn't officially resign until past the date for a special election. Liberal judges will occasionally follow the actual law if the results are favorable to them.
I was disappointed in Schundler on several fronts.
He lost to Jim McGreevey by a margin of 56 percent to 42 percent in 2001. So that's a 14 point margin behind a fairly weak candidate. And, in 2005, he will probably be running against Jon Corzine, former CEO of Goldman Sachs (a stronger candidate.) He really let himself get boxed in on social issues, and wasn't effectively to put forth an anti-tax or anti-corruption platform, which are the usual keys to Republican success in New Jersey.
But, more importantly, in 2001, Schundler apparently had knowledge of McGreevey's homosexuality and moral issues, at least according to newspaper reports. However, McGreevey was able to blackmail Schundler into silence because Schundler also had some moral "problems."
You can't run on a socially conservative platform (especially in a liberal state) if you have moral problems at home. Socially-moderate voters don't want to be lectured by somebody who doesn't have his own house in order.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5709441/site/newsweek
The NJ GOP is as corrupt and statist as the Democrats. Voters prefer the latter for obvious reasons.
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"The NJ GOP is as corrupt and statist as the Democrats. Voters prefer the latter for obvious reasons."
Agreed. I had really been hoping that Christie would come and clean up this state for us.
the star-ledger had an article that Christie was pro-life, but he could win in NJ. yay, I thought. he could win, the article said, if he made it clear that he wasn't actually going to do anything pro-life.
another "personally opposed but?" I am not sure they are worth the ground they stand on. I didn't know anything about Christie before he was mentionned as a possible candidate.
Next year ought to be a golden chance for the NJ Republican party and they stand sucking their thumbs and sniping at each other.
Mrs VS
Conservatives in NJ are in the same boat as those of us here in CA: we are mostly watching from the sidelines.
"Allowed? The corrupt liberal NJ Supremes allowed the switch."
Agreed, in a sense. But the state GOP party has been very ineffective at using the court of public opinion to counter activist judges. I hardly saw any prominent Republicans on television during the McGreevey scandal, calling for him to resign in disgrace.
What Christie Todd Whitman was saying:
Former Republican Gov. Christie Whitman said McGreevey “made a courageous decision” but criticized his plan to wait until Nov. 15 to leave office, saying it “smacks of politics.”
What she should have been saying:
"You disgraced the state, you endangered our security by installing your boyfriend as director of homeland security. Now get the hell out of the governor's mansion, and don't let the door hit you on the way out."
Sorry to hear it.
I have one name for N.J.
Rudy Guiliani.
The situation is perfect for him. He's liberal enough socially to please Dems, popular, has ties to the state and can clean up the corruption.
I think N.J. is his best fit, more so than a W.H. position or run in N.Y.
I don't see where Schundler has a political power base anymore. Last time, the only County Chairman who supported him was Dowd from Monmouth County -- and he's gone.
There are NO Republicans in NJ, only RINOS. Tom Kean's little turd of a son calls himself a Republican, but wants a state-wide smoking ban that's stronger than NY and CA. Christie Shittman was a total embarassment, and Donnie D and his pals at the Trenton GOP hung Shundler out to dry because he wouldn't join their pathetic RINO club. Bob Grant said as much on his radio show while Schundler was on as a guest, and Schundelr agreed that the NJ GOP really let him down. Shundeler was a Second Amendment warrior, pro-life, Reagean-admirer, etc, and that didn;t sit well with the RINOs in Trenton, many of whom are so liberal they make Micheal Bloomberg seem like Jesse Helms. All NJ FreePers should vote staright DEm in state races. I would prefer no GOP at all in this state than the RINOS we end up with. Let really punish those Trenton turds!
Senators have not fared well in a run for the presidency(hear that Hillary)Governors have.Corzine is mild mannered,well spoken and has a business background.
Is he a stealth northeast liberal candidate for president?
I disagree with your negative tone. We've got a couple of good conservative candidates. One of them will be the nominee, and this state, which was in play for GWB will be in play for the GOP. DiFransesco is a twit.
That's not true. Check out Scott Garrett, congressman, 5th district.
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