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It's November: time for a revolution in a former Soviet republic
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Posted on 11/27/2004 8:58:12 PM PST by Happy2BMe

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The Bolsheviks wouldn't know how to handle this kind of a 'revolution.'
1 posted on 11/27/2004 8:58:13 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: F15Eagle; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP
Ivan is itching for another REVOLUTION - ping.

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"What happened in Georgia a year ago is something that a lot of people in Ukraine are aware of," said Mark Mullen, the chief of Transparency International in Georgia who witnessed firsthand Tbilisi's revolution."

2 posted on 11/27/2004 9:00:46 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Happy2BMe

Bump


3 posted on 11/27/2004 9:06:45 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
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To: Aim Higher

This almost sounds like the Democrats trying to steal another election.


4 posted on 11/27/2004 9:19:13 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc
Nobody's seen John Kerry for days now . .

(Last seen on a plane owned by George Soros leaving NYC.)

5 posted on 11/27/2004 9:25:22 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Happy2BMe

Soros has been in the Ukraine giving millions to Yushchenko, and now everybody is going to believe the opposition are the good guys. I would have thought we learned something about the MSM from the last election.


6 posted on 11/27/2004 9:31:06 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Happy2BMe

I thought the TEN DAYS THAT SHOOK THE WORLD took place in December, not November


7 posted on 11/27/2004 9:33:35 PM PST by Jagman (Teamwork sucks)
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To: GarySpFc

You have the roles reversed here. Putin's favored candidate stole the election the same way Democrats stole the 1960 election in Illinois. Multi-votes, ballot-stuffing, the whole works.


8 posted on 11/27/2004 10:11:32 PM PST by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: GarySpFc
Soros has been in the Ukraine giving millions to Yushchenko, and now everybody is going to believe the opposition are the good guys.

Soros hasn't given Yushchenko a dime. It's an urban legend.

9 posted on 11/27/2004 10:28:03 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: GarySpFc; Happy2BMe; nw_arizona_granny
Leonid Kuchma was a tyrannical, corrupt, petty despot who-depending on who you choose to believe-also murdered potential rivals/adversaries.

However, I don't think that the United States should play into the hands of Putin & Co., which will also, incidentally, diminish the stature of Yushchenko in the eyes of many Ukrainians, by overtly exerting pressure on his opponent.

If this situation plays itself out as a repeat of NATO's actions in Serbia, it will ultimately backfire, to the detriment of Western Europe, the United States and the Ukraine.

10 posted on 11/27/2004 10:32:34 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Happy2BMe; A. Pole; Destro; GarySpFc
That's funny you say that, since Yuschenko heads a broad base coalition that includes the Catholic ultra-nationalists (read Nazis), Greens, Socialists, Soros crowd and now even the communists have come out tenitively for him. And the West he speaks of is the Franco-Germanic-Spanish West. To prove this, he has already tried in the Rada (Parliment) and promises to do as his first thing is to cut support for US involvement in Iraq, just like Poland and Hungary are now doing.

No, the communists/socialists know just how to handle a revolution, they've had years of Soros backing and training to get it right.

Wait till the next election and it is the Republicans who are the evil villans on the receiving end of a Soros youth movement to put their champion Hitlery in place. Then the fun really starts.

11 posted on 11/27/2004 10:50:23 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: WOSG

Problem is, in this little scenario, most Ukrainians live in the blue area not the orange, they live in the pro-Russian south and east, which is also where all the agriculture and industry is and what this will be is plain civil war. Soros wins regardless. Maybe not the whole prize but a goodly chunk of it.


12 posted on 11/27/2004 10:52:17 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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"No, the communists/socialists know just how to handle a revolution, they've had years of Soros backing and training to get it right.

Wait till the next election and it is the Republicans who are the evil villans on the receiving end of a Soros youth movement to put their champion Hitlery in place. Then the fun really starts."

You have one strange sense of humor if this is suppose to be funny. Are you related to Putin?
13 posted on 11/27/2004 11:05:26 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: FreeReign; GarySpFc
Urban legend this:

Why Soros “saves” Pinchuk?

Soros calls on Kuchma to step aside, make way for Yushchenko Ukrainian News

Yushchenko’s candidacy for president of Ukraine is openly backed by the famous American billionaire philanthropist, George Soros, himself a survivor of the Holocaust.

14 posted on 11/27/2004 11:19:07 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: Just mythoughts

Gee, guess you missed Moveon.org and $30 million to get rid of Bush. After all, just keep repeating that Soros is a friend of democracy.


15 posted on 11/27/2004 11:26:03 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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"Gee, guess you missed Moveon.org and $30 million to get rid of Bush. After all, just keep repeating that Soros is a friend of democracy."


You continually mix apples and oranges, and by the way this nation is not a democracy it is a representative republic.

Soros seemed to have wasted a lot of money in this nation, however, we the people cannot take credit of that, once again we were blessed.
16 posted on 11/28/2004 4:00:30 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Happy2BMe; jb6; A. Pole; Destro; RussianConservative
Wierd arithmetic. Is the guy in the article REALLY saying that only 30% of the population supports the man who won the election (Yanukovich)? How did he even get 39% in the first round of voting much less 49% in the second round, getting as high a percentage in the eastern regions as Yushchenko got in the western ones?

This is restoration of mob rule, just like the Soros-financed coup d'etats in Serbia and Georgia, and can not lead to positive results if successful. (And there is no reason to suppose that it will be, just because the biased western media portrays it as such.)

17 posted on 11/28/2004 4:17:02 AM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: Happy2BMe
Spoke with a friend in Ukraine yesterday; the country has pretty much come to a standstill. Kiev is flooded with people protesting the election results.

regards,

18 posted on 11/28/2004 5:46:40 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: WOSG
Putin's favored candidate stole the election the same way Democrats stole the 1960 election in Illinois. Multi-votes, ballot-stuffing, the whole works.

The irregularities were everywhere - in pro Yushchenko districts (where in some places he got unlikely high percentage of votes and Yukanovich supporters were intimidated) as well as in pro Yukanovich districts.

Orange revolutionaries would like to repeat voting only in Yukanovich districts until the desired result is achieved. Or better yet to do without the new election altogether - just put the correct "winner" in the office, proclaim the victory of "democracy" and follow happily the path of Djindjic Serbia. Exit polls do not lie, do they?

Kiev where the main demonstrations take place is 75% for Yushchenko. The analogy with US would be be blue states (which tend be pro-EU, more secular, more afluent, more white collar) corresponding to Kiev and Westernized West. Working class, industrial south/east of Ukraine would be like US red states. The full analogy would be if Boston, New York or San Francisco were the US capital.

19 posted on 11/28/2004 6:48:05 AM PST by A. Pole ("For the love of money is the root of all evil" -- II Timothy 6:10)
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To: FreeReign
Soros hasn't given Yushchenko a dime. It's an urban legend.

He did not need to, he can be quite "frugal". Sorosian training/logistics for the colored revolution/"democratic" coup could be paid in full by the Iron Princess - Yulia Timoshenko.


20 posted on 11/28/2004 7:02:25 AM PST by A. Pole ("For the love of money is the root of all evil" -- II Timothy 6:10)
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