Hanoi Kerry is in violation of the US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3

US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3 ^ | 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

[stockpirate]

I am not sure how that would work. If you are pardoned for a crime against the country can you still be held to the penalties? I think his career is over none the less. And I am in agreement with you completely on this issue. I don't think he should even be allowed to live in the US. He is a low life POS, IMHO.

[shellshocked]

That's the problem with having undeclared wars: There is no enemy. While 65,000 men and women were killed and many thousands more injured during Vietnam, I don't think there was ever a formal declaration of any kind that made North Vietnam, or any other enemy player, an "enemy" of the United States.

[momf]

Would you consider yourself hugged? I did this last week and had wondered if anyone else was. Thanks.

[crazyhorse691]

I said it over 30 years ago and I will say it again; John Kerry is the self-appointed leader of a group of traitors which makes him the King Traitor.

[ORECON]

Paging John Faux Kerry. Your Form 180 is still awaiting your signature.

I'll show you my US Navy service record if you show me yours.

Condi Rice/Ann Coulter 2008

[stockpirate]

Tonk, I know you have seen this list of mine a thousand times but maybe some of the others haven't.

Several of my posting concerning John Kerry, VVAW and the FBI files.

John F. Kerry and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War VVAW, who did John Kerry work for? In reading the FBI files concerning John F. Kerry and the VVAW I find several instances where the VVAW is receiving money, directions, and non-monetary support from Communist Organizations in the USA, Europe, Soviet Union, France and Southeast Asia, as well as other countries. So, John Kerry worked for Communist Organizations attempting to overthrow the Government of the United States of America.

FBI Documents indicate that while John Kerry was with the VVAW, VVAW leaders met with KGB agents in the US. “VVAW collusion with foreign spies? “The Diplomatic List published by U.S. Department of State, in 1971 listed Grigoriy Sergeyvich Milhaylovskiy as an assistant Military Attache, Embassy of the U.S.S.R., Washington, D.C.”

Highlights of the FBI files and John Kerry, section 7 (October 1971)

Vietnam Veterans Against the War, John Kerry, FBI files Section 8 (Oct-Nov 1971)

Do the FBI Files concerning the VVAW (Kerry’s antiwar group) indicate a plot to assassinate Pres. Nixon?

Here is what I have found in the FBI files re: VVAW and John Kerry

John Kerry caused a fracture in VVAW for his own selfish goals (FBI Files reveal)

Kerry, Watergate: DNC Links Caused Break-in? (Kerry lied! Still with the VVAW after February 1972)

Lets watch the film of John Kerry and VVAW members throwing combat medals over the fence

Treat as Yellow – John Kerry’s VVAW coordinating with the North Vietnam Communist Government when US forces are under attack

VVAW leader meets with Communists to discuss tactics in the US antiwar movement. Kerry’s group!

Vietnam Veterans Against the War, John Kerry, FBI files Section 8 (Oct-Nov 1971)

This one is not my post:

New Video TV ad – Kerry’s VVAW Assassination Plot

[stockpirate]

Is John Kerry a War Criminal and a Traitor?

Consider the following.

After the Tet Offensive of 1968, the Viet Cong were decimated, the North Vietnam Communists were beaten, but with the Socialist leaning press in America and the VVAW’s antiwar protests the North Vietnamese Communists decided to hold on. John Kerry did not join VVAW until after his return from Vietnam in early 1969, and until then VVAW didn’t have very many members (8,500) and were not very successful at getting heard. The FBI reports that VVAW was nearly inactive until the Moratoriums in the fall of 1969. See pg 90 So, the press and the antiwar movement in America prevented the North Vietnamese Communists from surrendering.

This meant that instead of a US victory in South Vietnam and freedom for the South Vietnamese we had about 10,000 more US deaths from the time John Kerry came on board with the VVAW until the end of the war. America’s POW's were being tortured while listening to tapes of John "Traitor" Kerry calling them baby killers. America’s brave soldiers were dieing in the jungles of Vietnam and John Kerry was calling them war criminals.

The VVAW, an antiwar group, founded in the spring of 1967, which Kerry was one of the national leaders of, was receiving directions from the North Vietnamese Communist Government. VVAW in contact with in contact with NV Communist Government

The directions were on how the VVAW should protest the Vietnam War.

The interaction became so depraved, that the North Vietnamese Communist contacted the VVAW via a phone call and advised the VVAW that they were getting ready to start an attack on US troops and that the VVAW was to be prepared to increase the protests against the increase in bombing that the NV Communists were sure would happen. This put our men in further danger because of John Kerry and VVAW actions. VVAW gets directions from the North Vietnamese Communists

Al Hubbard, a leader of the VVAW briefed the NV, Soviets and other communist countries concerning “Electronic Battlefield Vietnam” as to tactics, methods and equipment which put US troops at extreme risk. Link to EBV

John Kerry had no concern for the lives of his fellow soldiers in Vietnam or the POW's, John Kerry only cared about himself and his ambition to become POTUS, whatever the cost.

How many deaths of United States servicemen does John Kerry have on his hands?

How many families has John Kerry's behavior as a VVAW leader and a traitor to his country caused untold pain and suffering to?

How many unnecessary tears have been cried because John Kerry betrayed our trust to help a Communist government?

Does John Kerry still have ties to Communists in America?

John Kerry was an officer in the US Navy during his protests of the Vietnam War, having not received his discharge until 1978.

Why didn't John Kerry speak out just one time against the war crimes of his "Comrades in Arms the North Vietnamese Communists"?

Steven J. Pitkin says about his Winter Soldier testimony. “John Kerry and other leaders of that event pressured me to testify about American war crimes, despite my repeated statements that I could not honestly do so. One event leader strongly implied that I would not be provided transportation back to my home in Baltimore, Maryland, if I failed to comply. Kerry and other leaders of the event instructed me to publicly state that I had witnessed incidents of rape, brutality, atrocities and racism, knowing that such statements would necessarily be untrue.”

I've also been wondering why Kerry never reported the atrocities he supposedly witnessed while in Vietnam. Maybe because Kerry may have never witnessed any atrocities while he was in Vietnam. The VVAW leaders were meeting with the North Vietnamese Communist Government, leaders of the Communist Party in Moscow, and possibly the KGB, leaders of the Communist Party International in Paris, leaders of the Communist Party USA, and last but not least the group of Communists in South Vietnam that backed the North Vietnamese Communists.

These Communist groups were directing the VVAW leaders as to what they wanted them to do, when they wanted them to do it, and that is what the VVAW did.

So in a nutshell, when the world communist leaders told Kerry and his VVAW group what to do, that is what they did, no questions asked.

Then there is this posted by Freeper Quilla!

In the last few weeks several political insiders have forgotten themselves and referred to TWA Flight 800, the airliner, which exploded in July of 1996 just east of New York City, as a terrorist incident. But only one has done it twice.

That person is Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts. Appearing on "Larry King Live" on Sept. 11 of this year, Kerry suggested that TWA Flight 800 was brought down by a terrorist act. The second admission took place on Sept. 24 on "Hardball" with Chris Matthews. On this occasion, Kerry casually recited a number of terrorist attacks against the United States, among them TWA "Flight 800." Like Larry King before him, Chris Matthews either did not catch the remark or chose to let it pass.

And that there is this posted by Freeper Fedora:

According to Newsweek magazine, Kerry met with Liu Chaohying, a Hong Kong businesswoman who wanted to have her company listed on the U.S. Stock Exchange. Kerry lobbied on her behalf by helping to organize a meeting between Liu Chaohying and a senior Securities and Exchange (SEC) official.

In return, Kerry accepted a $10,000 contribution in the form of a Beverly Hills Fundraise on Sept 9, 1996, less than a month before the election, Newsweek reported.

It would later be established that Liu Chaohying was not simply a profit-motivated businesswoman, but rather a lieutenant colonel in the Communist China's Peoples Liberation Army.

Newsweek reported that more than $28,000 in illegal contributions were funneled into the campaign of then President Bill Clinton and Kerry, and that "the contributions came out of $300,00 in overseas wire transfers sent on orders from the chief of the Chinese military intelligence - and routed through a Hong Kong bank account controlled by Liu Chaohying."

The Los Angeles Times reported that Senator Kerry sent 28 letters on behalf of San Diego defense contractor Parthassarthi "Bob" Majumder between 1996 and 1999 in order to "free up federal funds" for a guided missile system designed by Majumder. In return, court documents show, Majumder induced his employees to contribute approximately $25,000 to Senator Kerry's campaign, while paying them proceeds from the government tracts in return.

[stockpirate]

Well if that is the case lets get this ball rolling and get the Senate to get some, ahhhh what do you call them, oh yeah, BA*LS, and impeach Kerry.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

I know, I'm beating the drum again.

I see to many others on FR say

"It's over, Kerry lost, move on etc"

"Give it up, time to move on"

"Let the past go."

Etc, Etc

Well I am NOT going to give up.

I'm in it until my last dying breath.

[momf]

There has to be someone around who was in the Company Office when sKerry was discharged.

I think his discharge is probably other than honorable, however, the facts that HE himself gave aid and comfort to and was meeting with the enemy puts him in violation of the constitution. That should remove him from office if the people elected to represent us have a spine.

[stockpirate]

Tonkin Gulf Resolution?

[lancer]

I think he was pardoned by that stupid President Carter.

Then the pardon should be made public along with the reasons for pardoning him and what he had done to be pardoned for.

I think I smell a petition to congress coming up...How about the Swifties leading the charge once again on this traitor.

O'Neill, are you listening? Can someone pass this to John O'Neill?

[FreedomCalls]

He is in violation of the law wherein if you miss a certain number of votes the Senate has to withhold your pay. The Senate chose not to enforce that law because it was last enfored 90 years ago.

2 USC Sec. 39, reads: “The Secretary of the Senate and the Chief Administrative Officer of the House … shall deduct from the monthly payments (or other periodic payment authorized by law) of each Member or Delegate the amount of his salary for each day that he has been absent from the Senate or House, respectively, unless such Member or Delegate assigns as the reason for such absence the sickness of himself or of some member of his family.”

They will simply just choose not to enforce this section of the Constitution as well. There is one set of laws for some people another set of laws for others. Then there are some people to whom laws don't count (John Kerry, Sandy Berger, et al.)

[FreedomCalls]

I don't think there was ever a formal declaration of any kind that made North Vietnam, or any other enemy player, an "enemy" of the United States.

Gulf of Tonkin Resolution

August 10, 1964
Public Law 88-408; 78 Stat. 384

JOINT RESOLUTION

To promote the maintenance of international peace and security in southeast Asia.

~Whereas naval units of the Communist regime in Vietnam, in violation of the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and of international law, have deliberately and repeatedly attacked United States naval vessels lawfully present in international waters; and have thereby created a serious threat to international peace; and

~Whereas these attacks are part of a deliberate and systematic campaign of aggression that the Communist regime in North Vietnam has been waging against its neighbors and the nations joined with them in the collective defense of their freedom; and

~Whereas the United States is assisting the peoples of southeast Asia to protect their freedom and has no territorial, military or political ambitions in that area, but desires only that these peoples should be left in peace to work out their own destinies in their own way: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the Congress approves and supports the determination of the President, as Commander in Chief, to take all necessary measures to repel any armed attack against the forces of the United States and to prevent further aggression.

Sec. 2. The United States regards as vital to its national interest and to world peace the maintenance of international peace and security in southeast Asia. Consonant with the Constitution of the United States and the Charter of the United Nations and in accordance with its obligations under the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty, the United States is, therefore, prepared, as the President determines, to take all necessary steps, including the use of armed force, to assist any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asia Collective Treaty requesting assistance in defense of its freedom.

Sec. 3. This resolution shall expire when the President shall determine that the peace and security of the area is reasonably assured by international conditions created by action of the United Nations or otherwise, except that it may be terminated earlier by concurrent resolution of the Congress.

Approved August 10, 1964.

[Cobra64]

One way or another, his dishonorable discharge must be released. It's an outrage that a public servant is allowed to keep that private.

Steve, you have it upside down. We are his servants. We are waifs to his $200,000 Senate salary, and married to a billionaire, while he plays on ski slopes and rides his $5,000 bicycle over the James Rive in Boston, MA; and rarely shows up for work. I'd bet his manicurist works more hours in a month than Kerry has in a year. JMO

[ORECON]

Stockpirate,

You are my new best friend!

US Navy Viet Nam Veteran

[Cobra64]

IF he does then we know that a R Majority House and Senate would mean nothing.

I agree. The Pubs are spineless.

[AirForceMom]

All is needed is one person with brass b*lls..........sadly, this is lacking in our government.
How they look the other way is absolutely sickening.

[maine-iac7]

I believe he already and quietly did - with the help of Carter and his life long friend, Teddy boy. that' s how he finally ended up with an "honorable" (puke) discharge some 6 years AFTER he left the service....It's the "less than honorable" one we have a right to see.

and the whole cover-up should be exposed...

[Sola Veritas]

Although I strongly support efforts to have Kerry removed from the Senate. As a constitutional strict constructionist that believes in original intent, I do not think this section applies.

This part of the 14th ammendment was specifically designed to punish congressmen and military men that sided with the confederacy during the american civil war. People that had taken an oath to defend the constitution and then rebeled against it.

Actually, the only way this could realistical apply again if there was an organized attempt by "blue staters" to secede from the union. Then the ammendment would apply IMO.

Whatever, I still applaud efforts to bring Kerry to a full accounting over his actions during Vietnam.