CA: Idling at the port

Press Telegram ^ | 11/27/04 | Op/Ed

[glock rocks]

bonk.

[sionnsar]

Those old trucks may not be be able to start again

Huh?

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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[Pete-R-Bilt]

9/30/04-A bill that would have put strict controls on emissions at the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach – including emissions produced by trucks – has been vetoed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
AB2042 would have required the ports and the South Coast Air Quality Management District, which regulates air quality in that part of California, to agree on a “baseline” level of pollution, based on the amount at the ports in 2004. It would then require the ports and agency to develop a plan to control pollution based on that baseline level.
The bill passed a final vote before the Assembly 46-31 in late August; it passed the Senate earlier that month by a vote of 21-16. Schwarzenegger vetoed the bill Sept. 29.
In his veto message, the governor indicated that he supported the ideas behind the bill, but thought that the measure would not accomplish those goals.
“This bill will not reduce pollution in any way,” the governor wrote in the veto message. “We need to focus our scarce resources on substantive, prompt action that will make real progress toward our shared air quality goals.
“Ports and federally regulated sources of air pollution must do more to reduce emissions in order for California to meet its mandates and to reduce negative air impacts in the communities in which these facilities operate.”

[Pete-R-Bilt]

10/19/04-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a bill into law expanding the list of who can be fined for making truckers wait at port terminals in the state.
The new law, previously AB1971, modifies existing state law requiring every marine terminal in California to operate in a way that keeps trucks from idling any more than 30 minutes while waiting to load or unload or face a fine. The new provision expands those fines to include port operators.
It applies only to facilities at ports that handle 100,000 or more containers a year.
Previously, marine terminal operators who try to divert trucks to freeways or staging areas away from the ports to avoid the law faced an additional fine. The new law has an additional provision prohibiting the terminals from passing the cost of the fines on to truck owners and operators.
Terminal operators could face a $250 fine for every truck left idling more than 30 minutes; if the terminal diverts the idling trucks, that fine increases to $750.
The law also requires each of the state’s air quality districts to determine the level of monitoring and enforcement necessary, based on the truck idling problems within each district.
Under the new law, fines expand to include terminals that make truckers “queue,” or wait in line. It also expands the duties of air-quality districts to cover queuing trucks as well as idling ones.
The measure received final approval from the Senate and Assembly in August. It was signed by the governor Sept. 18.

[B4Ranch]

Pete
Why did I know you would be uptodate on this measure? LOL

[glock rocks]

Pete
Why did I know you would be uptodate on this measure?

He reads all this stuff while he's idling?

[Ptarmigan]

Insanity. If California got rid of all the blue counties, it would be a very conservative state. Problem with California is all the coastal cities and coastal Northern California counties.

[Pete-R-Bilt]

He reads all this stuff while he's idling?

its not just a terminal thing!

nor just a california thing!

article

[janetgreen]

Don't you think this problem could be lessened by keeping the terminal gates open 24 hours a day?

[Pete-R-Bilt]

That and by coordinating the way cans are checked in and out.

interstate shipments should be handled on a 24 hour ship and recieve schedule, while local cans may be limited to local business' schedules.

they should be segregated according to catagory so road trucks and local cartage trucks aren't stumbling over each other...

imo

[Syncro]

I never had that problem when I was driving truck.

In fact a diesel can start all by itself, it happened to me once.

I had parked at the yard, and was walking to dispatch, and I heard my truck start up. It was weird to say the least.
That's why you always set the brake and leave the tractor in neutral.

I had to find a mechanic to shut it off.

[janetgreen]

Adding a shift from 3AM to 8AM would ease a lot of the day truck traffic. The shippers say this is too expensive, but it seems to me that it would actually be more profitable for them to get the cargo moving out faster in the early hours of the morning, rather than have a glut of trucks idling and waiting during the day. It would ease the traffic on the freeways too.

[snopercod]

"If we could just ban everybody doing anything productive in LA, the air would be really clean."

[B4Ranch]

its not just a terminal thing!

nor just a california thing!

I don't believe you read the article. You don't have that kind of time. Satellite radio is where your intel comes from.

[B4Ranch]

>>In fact a diesel can start all by itself, it happened to me once.<<

Red Sovine and Dave Dudley know all about that kind of thing.

[Pete-R-Bilt]

in that respect, the unions are the bigest obstacle to what makes sense...

[janetgreen]

It's not the unions, it's the shippers who won't agree to a 3AM to 8AM shift. The unions are willing to work at any hour, but no one has asked them to. The big money is in the shipping companies bank accounts. Always follow the money. The enormously rich companies would hire illegal alien labor if they could.

[SierraWasp]

You just cut right through ALL the crap, don'tcha? Ha Ha Ha!!!