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Good News About Poverty
NY Times ^ | November 27, 2004 | DAVID BROOKS

Posted on 11/26/2004 10:17:38 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Republican Wildcat
token

Please quote where MEG33 said he had betrayed conservatives/moderates.

I don't believe I said anything like that. Maybe it's just me, but most of the time that I hear or read the word "token" being used these days, it's having a negative connotation.

21 posted on 11/27/2004 3:09:53 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

I was refering to your use of "Uncle Tom."

And it was meant to be a negative for the NYT.


22 posted on 11/27/2004 3:36:40 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Cronos
I know the point. I was just complaining because I want to buy a house and can't. It really pisses me off. I suppose I could buy a house if I wanted to walk to work as I would no longer be able to pay my car insurance let alone put gas in the thing, bath but once a week because the water would be out of my budget, eat pinto beans that I have ground into powder by hand because I wouldn't have water and also no gas to cook with. Hmmm, what am forgetting? Ah, yes toilet paper, definitely out of the budget.
23 posted on 11/27/2004 3:54:55 PM PST by mindspy
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To: neverdem

"Just once, I'd like to see someone like Bono or Bruce Springsteen stand up at a concert and speak the truth to his fan base: that the world is complicated and there are no free lunches."

sound of crickets..........


24 posted on 11/27/2004 4:36:25 PM PST by lilmsdangrus
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To: mindspy

Quit whining and do something. Nearly 70% of all Americans own their homes. And they're not all rich.
OK, maybe you can't have a McMansion, but many people start with a modest home or a condo. And maybe you'd have to commute farther to work, but many people do that, too.
Whining doesn't get you anywhere - work and a plan will.


25 posted on 11/27/2004 5:03:29 PM PST by speekinout
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To: speekinout
Yes, buy the rattiest house the the best neighborhood and fix it up. It you do it right or even adequately, you'll have plenty enough money to move to a nice house in five years max.
26 posted on 11/27/2004 5:56:55 PM PST by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
buy the rattiest house the the best neighborhood and fix it up.

I actually know people who did that twice, and wound up in a pretty snazzy neighborhood after 3 years or so..
They probably won't leave this one, because it is really what they want.

They lived with reconstruction chaos for maybe 3 years, but the end result was worth it.

27 posted on 11/27/2004 6:15:29 PM PST by speekinout
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To: speekinout

Perhaps I am whining. However, the real estate market is way over priced. Further I shouldn't have live like a pauper to own a home. Also, I do have a plan and am working on it. Even if I could afford it I wouldn't buy in an inflate market. What is out there is just insanity. I have seen this scenario played out twice in my lifetime. It is always, oooooh everybody has sooo much money, then boom, ooooooh nobody has any money. What is the point to this, it would be nice to have it all on a steady flow. If the world is up and down then the ups are bs and the downs are bs. If all was sure and steady then it would be real.


28 posted on 11/27/2004 7:26:54 PM PST by mindspy
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To: Cronos

Simple, it's the result of Corporate abuse of there slaves. These rear-ends of human society don't care about us, don't care about this nation and thusly don't care about foreigners either. All they care about is money and who/what they can take advantage of to get it. Economic rape. Welcome to the republican party. I never would have thought I'd find myself saying that till recently. Now I'm disgusted, sick, and ready to do something about it.


29 posted on 11/28/2004 4:11:34 AM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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To: mindspy
the real estate market is way over priced.

Compared to what? Compared to what you want to pay, maybe, but not compared to what you'd like to get if you had some you wanted to sell.

Further I shouldn't have live like a pauper to own a home.

Actually, it's a good idea to do just that. A good way to build wealth is to buy the best house you can as early as you can, even if it means that you have to furnish it from garage sales, make your own coffee, and get your entertainment from network tv.
After a year or two, you'd never again complain about an over-priced market. And who doesn't have a year or two to invest in their future?

30 posted on 11/28/2004 11:53:11 AM PST by speekinout
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To: neverdem
This can't be true. Juan Williams has been telling us all that everything is going to hell and the economy is doomed. Wait, I see a hand going up Juan's butt. Why it's the ventriloquist Terry McAwfuls hand!!!
31 posted on 11/28/2004 12:21:49 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: Cronos

I might add that this behavior is what has made us unpopular with people of other countries - not their governments; but, the peoples exploited themselves. You do enough of that and the world then hates us - not for who we are here; but for the actions of unscrupulous businessmen and politicians. This is an issue some of my ex-military friends rant about regularly.
But I suppose we're all supposed to look the other way because Bush decided to.

Corporate greed will be the party's undoing and very likely that of the country with it. China and mexico have been training troops on our southern borders - story after story on this site has speculated about it. There are 9+ million Illegal Mexican immigrants in this country right now. The movement in Mexico and the United states for taking back the US west has been more vocal in the past few years. Mexico's president is bold in his galling statements with regard to US disposition on immigration. Now you have US Corporations selling out the citizenry of this country to China and Mexico. Our cost of living rises, property cost rises, while wages are being assaulted by illegal workers, offshoring and outsourcing.

If that weren't enough, we are being assaulted culturally and at the tax system as we carry the burden of medical expenses, schooling expenses etc for these illegals. And all this while a culture war is already boiling between the right and the left. Any of you elitist knowitalls out there have any idea which Clancy novel this comes from.. Real life is not stranger than fiction - it's the basis for it.
And if some of you don't wake up...


32 posted on 11/29/2004 2:37:24 AM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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