Alexander wasn't gay

bible history.com ^ | Craig Johnson

[ishabibble]

That he could have been the Governor of New Jersey...

[FreedomCalls]

"Alexander had 3 wives and several mistresses. He had children."

What does that prove?

That gay marriage was legal in 400 BC? And that gays could adopt children?

</sarcasm>

[longtermmemmory]

Dan Rather just announce he has found scrolls which prove that Alexander the Great failed to fulfill his service in the palace guard service. The scrolls are from unimpeachable sources and 60 minutes II will have an interview with the author.

(/sarcasm)

[JohnEBoy]

Go to rottentomatoes.com. They post newspaper and internet reviews from all over the country. On their scale, this movie is a giant BOMB. They grade it at 15, meaning only 15% of the critics say anything positive about it. If this movie recovers one-third of what it cost to make (150 million), I'll be surprised.

[CatoRenasci]

I read a scholarly biography of Alexander (Alexander of Macedon) eight or ten years ago. At that time, I had heard or seen some speculation that Alexander was, like many Greeks, at least bisexual. IIRC, the author's take on the question was that there wasn't any reliable evidence Alexander was homosexual, but the evidence there was suggested Alexander was much more driven by power and conquest than sex. That has certainly been true of other great miltary figures historically, even if some of the great conquerors have been exceptionally sexually oriented. That struck me as rather more plausible than the explanation that Alexander was light in the loafers.

[sporkgoddess]

Sorry, but every man in ancient Greece practiced homosexuality. It was the norm there.

Frankly, I'm just wondering if Oliver Stone will somehow manage to work in USA soldiers being forced to rape and pillage in Vietnam in there. Come on, it's Oliver Stone, he's gotta mention that war SOMEWHERE.

[FreedomCalls]

Does anyone have information about the early returns of Stone's "gay" movie?

Wednesday's estimates:	Screens	Nov 24
National Treasure	3,243	$5,680,000
The Incredibles	3,453	$4,410,000
Alexander	2,445	$3,850,000
Spongebob	3,307	$3,700,000
Polar Express	3,650	$3,500,000

[longtermmemmory]

You are wrong about your take on ancient greek history. Even the homosexual advocates today admit that there were no more homosexuals then as there are now.

It was NEVER normal then. The claims you state are just a propaganda developed by homoadvocates in the ivory towers over the course of the last 50 or so years.

Stone went to Greece to do research for this movie almost two years ago. He left after he did not hear what he wanted to hear and refused any assistance of historians and museum curators. (this is per the Greek Satelite TV's)

Per a review posted here, BTW, Stone's ending is supposed to be a statement against GWBush.

[longtermmemmory]

Thanks, so it opened third loosing out to movies which were already opened.

so it may be around 10 million this weekend and keep falling.

Perhaps hollyweird suits will learn a lesson about the unprofitability of producing "gay" movies.

[FreedomCalls]

By the way the link to the info is:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2004-11-24&p=.htm

I forgot to include it above.

[longtermmemmory]

Stone Hopes Europe Will Like 'Alexander'

Thu Nov 25, 3:26 PM ET Associated Press.


STOCKHOLM, Sweden - Filmmaker Oliver Stone, whose "Alexander" got a lukewarm reception from critics in America, said Thursday he thought the three-hour epic would get a better welcome in Europe.



Stone visited the Stockholm International Film Festival to pick up a lifetime achievement award and promote "Alexander," which was having its European premiere in Stockholm.


"I think one of the reasons I am being honored here in Sweden is that (Europeans) tend to see me a little differently than they do in the U.S.," Stone told reporters.


He said the film "is not an easy movie, but then I've never made easy movies." His previous films include "JFK," "Born on the Fourth of July" and "Platoon."


Stone said the timing of the award gave him a reason to escape media attention surrounding Wednesday's U.S. premiere of "Alexander," which chronicles the life of the ancient warrior-king Alexander the Great. The film's depiction of Alexander as bisexual has come under particular scrutiny.


"To be here is a delight," Stone said. "Lifetime achievement awards don't come and go. ... I may make better films yet, or I may not. This is a moment of my life that I'd just like to pause and enjoy."


Stone will receive the Bronze Horse award from the festival Friday night. Previous recipients include Roman Polanski, David Lynch, Lauren Bacall (news) and Gena Rowlands.

[longtermmemmory]

seems stone is trying to beat the negative word of mouth as fast as possible.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

The homosexual lobby commits the same fallacy in interpreting the masculine relationships in other literary works such as those of Shakespeare. They seem incapable of distinguishing between the different types of love. As Christians believe in 'romantic' love between man and woman and of a 'divine' love expressed by the term agape, western civilization has had other clearly defined types of love. Chief among these is the love between friends. When it is between two men, it is best termed as a type of camaraderie, or esprit de corps. It is a male bonding where men are best friends and dependent upon one another for survival against enemies.

Shakespeare, in his sonnets, was free to praise the beauty of one of his best friends whom he 'loved' and was trying to persuade to marry and procreate. But there was nothing homosexual about it.

I believe contemporary psychologists classify the type of fallacy the homosexual lobby commits in falsely identifying certain types of love as homosexual as 'projection.'

[what's up]

Sorry, but every man in ancient Greece practiced homosexuality.

Ridiculous.

[longtermmemmory]

Hollyweird makes up homosexuality where non can be proven.

Hollywierd makes "Kinsey" and dances around the homoadvocacy nature of his work and sexual activities which CAN be proven.

[muawiyah]

Alexander wasn't a Greek anyway. He was a Macedonian, as was his father. Although their cultures were similar, at least the Greeks had it right at the time ~ they thought of the Macedonians as barbarians, even after they had been conquered by them.

It was with great relief, even joy, that the top level guys in Greece saw Alexander off to conquer the world ~ at least he wasn't hanging around Greece bothering people anymore.

Modern Greeks want to think of Alexander as one of their own.

That doesn't make him straight, of course, but it also doesn't make him homosexual.

[reg45]

Oliver Stone’s Alexander:

Just another Hollywood Fairy Tale

[InterceptPoint]

"Alexander wasn't gay"

I'm so sorry to hear that. Was he "sad"?

[longtermmemmory]

You are dead wrong. While the ancient greeks may have considered the northern Greeks uncouth (much like americans may call arkansas "inbred hicks") they were still greek linked by language and religion.

The records and carvings in stone made at that time DURING alexander's life list him as Greek. The notion of Alexander as a non-greek is a recent propaganda creation from the cold war. (Marshal Tito creating a fake state called Macedonia as part of his land grab efforts)

There are displays at the Museum dedicated to Alexander the Great in Thesaloniki Greece which indicate this fact. The world at the time considerd all on the peninsula Greek.

As for your assertion of "happy he was gone", you have no clue. Alexander's army was composed of Greeks from the whole peninsula and make of the city states were glad to participate in the spoils.

The fact that he had wives and children of his own makes him straight. The fact there are no contemporatious records of any homsexual conduct discredits the claims of homoadvocates.

[gswilder]

Regardless of the gay/bisexual issue, it is a horrible movie. Bad script. You develop no compassion for any of the characters. Usually I don't like movies where the hero dies. Watching Alexander, I couldn't wait till he kicked the bucket, so the movie could be over.

Poor battle scenes. Too much talking and not enough action. Lots of better historical battle epic type movies to see. Heck, even Troy is better than this. My 10 year old could write a better script. Bad bad movie.