Posted on 11/24/2004 12:03:50 PM PST by weegee
Clymer aboard, I guess you'd say.
My good friend, Occam, has a razor you may want to borrow. One does not refute evidence by dismissing it as a "cartoon".
3D modeling is a very good forensic tool, especially when the exact positions of all the relevant details can be verified by multiple reference points. The size of the car, position of the car, position of the occupants, speed, timing, etc. are all verifiable data points which can be plotted from multiple references and placed in a virtual "Daly Plaza" accurate in size and space. Given that, it is easy to look at the whole sequence from any angle in real time.
Unless you have evidence to refute the idea that the model is accurate in its construction, your mere dismissal doesn't hold water. I know it is hard to give up the cherished myths of childhood, but the truth is Oswald (or at least someone in the book depository window) was the assassin.
The evidence is in the Zapruder film itself. None of the graphic 'models' actually use an overlay of the film, frame by frame, to prove that their graphics are accurate. Anyone can draw cartoons to 'prove' any POV.
The Z film doesn't lie. -- The angles for the magic bullet are all wrong.
I know it is hard to give up the cherished myths of childhood, but the truth is Oswald (or at least someone in the book depository window) was the assassin.
Exactly the adult point I made in a published letter to the editor in '64, shortly after the Report was issued.
Odds are that "someone", besides Oswald, was up there, and helped.
About 10+ years ago a young man returned to his old high school in Seattle and fatally shot an ex-teacher (who had molested him). He fired one round from an AR-15, from at least 100 yards away. The shot hit the teacher, and was a through-and-through. The teacher just stood there for several seconds, looking around at people and asking them, "What happened?" Then, he dropped to the ground, dead.
I never believed Oswald acted alone until I "shot" Kennedy myself from Oswald's position, using the software from the above link. Now, I think it's entirely possible he was a lone gunman.
Yes, I had forgotten; there was also that.
88 yards?
From the Warren Report:
" ---- The Commission's test firers were all rated as "Master" by the National Rifle Association (NRA); they were experts whose daily routines involved working with and shooting firearms (3H445).
In the tests, three targets were set up at 175, 240, and 365 feet respectively from a 30-foot-high tower. Each shooter fired two series of three shots, using the C2766 rifle. The men took 8.25, 6.75, and 4.60 seconds respectively for the first series and 7.00, 6.45, and 5.15 for the second (3H446).
In the first series, each man hit his first and third targets but missed the second. Results varied on the next series, although in all cases but one, two targets were hit.
Thus, in only two cases were the Commission's experts able to fire three aimed shots in under 5.6 seconds as Oswald allegedly did.
In his testimony before the Commission, Ronald Simmons spoke first of the caliber of shooter necessary to have fired the assassination shots on the basis that only two hits were achieved:
Mr. Eisenberg: Do you think a marksman who is less than a highly skilled marksman under those conditions would be able to shoot within the range of 1.2 mil aiming error [as was done by the experts]?
Mr. Simmons: Obviously, considerable experience would have to be in one's background to do so. And with this weapon, I think also considerable experience with this weapon, because of the amount of effort required to work the bolt. (3H449)
Well, in order to achieve three hits, it would not be required that a man be an exceptional shot. A proficient man with this weapon, yes. But I think with the opportunity to use the weapon and to get familiar with it, we could probably have the results reproduced by more than one firer. (3H450)
There was a Discovery Channel program about two weeks ago that did this exact thing. Frame by frame overlay of the Zapruder film, cross checked and time-synced against overlays of the other films shot that day that give a POV from the other side of the car. Bullet lined up perfectly in a straight line. The main problem with the Zapruder film is that a road sign obstructs the view at the moment of the impact of the second shot, i.e. the "magic bullet". So, your contention is just factually wrong. Odds are that "someone", besides Oswald, was up there, and helped.
That is something that cannot be proved nor disproved forensically. The "magic bullet" can and has been. However, there are three casings from the window area, all with receiver marks from the same rifle. It seems unlikely that there were two shooters sharing a gun. But, since no one saw the shots fired, it is within the realm of possibility that it wasn't Oswald at the window. I consider that only slightly more likely than that JFK was offed by an orbiting UFO from Mongo. I hold no "reasonable doubt" that LHO was the killer.
Where did you get the 5.6 seconds? Oswald had over 8 sec.
JFK - killed by a girdle ?!?!?!?!?!?!
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