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Compulsory Voting Means Ignoring Election Day is not an Option
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 24 November 2004 | Greg Barns

Posted on 11/24/2004 8:33:51 AM PST by Publius

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One of the great myths of American politics is that there is a vast pool of like-minded voters to be tapped if only a way could be invented to get them to the polls. True Believers of both the Left and Right believe that if they could only get a True Liberal or True Conservative nominated for a position, voters who had never voted before would stream to the polls instead of staying home.

After every election, the True Believers of the losing side sip this particular brand of Kool-Aid and argue for ideological purity for their party. This year the Left has sipped, but with a difference. Rather than argue for ideological purity, some on the Left are now suggesting compulsory voting. What better way, they think, to get that vast pool of liberals and “progressives” to come to the polls! Vote -- or pay a fine -- or go to prison.

This one is going to be as popular as a skunk at a church picnic.

1 posted on 11/24/2004 8:33:52 AM PST by Publius
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To: Publius

If anything, too many uninformed idiots are voting. In my perfect world, only taxpayers, landowners and military (acive and veteran) could vote.


2 posted on 11/24/2004 8:37:02 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: Publius

This is an awful idea! Let the ignorant and uninformed stay home.


3 posted on 11/24/2004 8:38:15 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Publius

Do we really want people who are too lazy to get off the sofa and quit eating cheesy poofs to vote to decide the future of the country? We'll have Jerry Springer suddnly the most powerful political figure.


4 posted on 11/24/2004 8:41:14 AM PST by mnehring (Fear leads to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to the DNC.)
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To: Publius

Riddle me this, Batman. Everyone bemoans the "light" turnout and complains about how many people decline to cast a ballot. But on the other hand, the media and the parties shoot for accurate predictions by sampling about 1,250 of the population and they are flabbergasted if their prediction is off the mark. Quite the pair of ducks, eh wot?


5 posted on 11/24/2004 8:42:12 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We are in the process of allowing them to self-actualise" LtC. Rainey, Fallujah, 11/04)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

Ditto Kiddo!


6 posted on 11/24/2004 8:42:45 AM PST by Diego1618
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To: Publius

The less that vote, the more mine counts. I wish everyone would stay home on election day, because I am not!


7 posted on 11/24/2004 8:45:11 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

By "taxpayer", do you mean people who pay the income tax or sales tax, or people who pay the property tax -- which is the way things worked before 1825?


8 posted on 11/24/2004 8:45:18 AM PST by Publius
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To: mnehrling
...cheesy poofs...

Ah, a South Park Republican. Didn't Jerry Springer serve in some function as a Democrat or run for office?

9 posted on 11/24/2004 8:46:36 AM PST by Publius
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To: Publius

I have a hunch that the non-voters are more likely to include the "leave-me-alone" types, who are not excited about Democrat plans.


10 posted on 11/24/2004 8:48:06 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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Oh yeah, compulsary voting got them all to turn in their guns by force and hire/vote in a bunch of liberal wack jobs.

Oh yeah, we wanna be just like them, NOT!!!

I love the Aussies, but forced "voting" is not an American concept. If you don't vote, then obviously you don't care or know who to vote for. THAT, works for me.


11 posted on 11/24/2004 8:50:18 AM PST by JoeSixPack1 (Typing incoherently on FR since May '98.)
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To: Publius

The moron doesn't get it. We need fewer people voting, not more.
Maybe if we could require the voter to be able to recite from memory his Senators, representative, Governor, President, VP, at least one member of the cabinet?

Compulsory voting? In a Republic? What a crock.


12 posted on 11/24/2004 8:51:33 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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I don't know enough about Australian political history, but in America we traditionally restricted the franchise until the past 120 years or so. You used to have to show your property tax receipt to the county clerk to prove you were a taxpayer before you were allowed to vote -- and back then there was no secret ballot. As a result, only 10% of white males age 21 or over were allowed to vote. The property requirement for federal elections was repealed in 1825 but survived elsewhere for non-federal elections until the end of the 19th Century.

I suspect the Aussies didn't experience anything like the old stakeholder franchise that existed in this country.

13 posted on 11/24/2004 8:54:47 AM PST by Publius
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To: Little Ray
Maybe if we could require the voter to be able to recite from memory his Senators, representative, Governor, President, VP, at least one member of the cabinet?

Weren't literacy tests required in the South for a century or so?

14 posted on 11/24/2004 8:56:25 AM PST by Publius
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This is an awful idea! Let the ignorant and uninformed stay home.

Right on! I am constantly horrified by the talk shows where they send someone out on the street to "interview people about their political knowledge." Hannity did one recently with fliper and the people who voted for Kerry didn't have a clue as to who the Dem VP was, what positions Kerry or Bush had, etc. I also remember a street interview that Jay Lenno did where he asked voters on their opinons and they were equally clueless.

Rather than focusing on "more" voters, we need more eductated voters.

15 posted on 11/24/2004 8:58:50 AM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Publius

Voting is a right. If someone doesn't want to exercise their rights, fine. But forcing people to vote totally misses the boat (hey I'm a poet).


16 posted on 11/24/2004 9:03:02 AM PST by 14erClimb
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If the lazy or doltish amongst us either can't figure out how to vote or want to take the time and energy to do so, our country is better off without their compulsory ignorant input.

There should be nothing compulsory about voting. The only necessary things should be the voter is a legitimate American citizen, has a proper ID, is legally registered, is at the right place at the right time, and performs the process correctly.

The lazy and foolish need not and should not be included to make the process legitimate. We have enough fools already voting as it is.

17 posted on 11/24/2004 9:05:13 AM PST by Gritty ("Once an unabashedly pious land, we've been transformed into historically clueless ingrates-M.Malkin)
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To: Publius

Compulsory voting forces people to engage with their democracy -- maybe the United States should try a dose.

Uhm, how about NO!


18 posted on 11/24/2004 9:05:34 AM PST by weshess (I will stop hunting when the animals agree to quit jumping in front of my gun to commit suicide)
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To: Publius

compulsory voting=bad idea


19 posted on 11/24/2004 9:06:58 AM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (We won !)
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To: Publius

I am not an historian but even I don't remember any mandatory voting laws here. Qualifications have come and gone, districts have been spun and unspun, and the Constitution itself has been dissected, amended, and fideled with over the years and survived.

Suggestions outside out borders are welcome, but being pigheaded Americans, we like our history, we like our Constitution and so far, we've done "OK" at the polls without force.

The only one who loses if they don't vote is the voter. Unless of course you have a socialistic mindset and require a couple thousand people to convince you that you voted properly per their advice.

:-)


20 posted on 11/24/2004 9:08:04 AM PST by JoeSixPack1 (Typing incoherently on FR since May '98.)
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