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Report: Ukraine Opposition Leader Takes Oath ("Ukraine is on the threshold of a civil conflict")
AP ^ | Tue, Nov 23, 2004 | By ALEKSANDAR VASOVIC

Posted on 11/23/2004 9:03:00 AM PST by Grzegorz 246

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To: cicero's_son

"What evidence (if any) is there that Yuschenko is a Moscow plant?"

First, for Moscow/KGB this is standard operating procedure (controlling both sides of the debate/revolution/election so that their side wins no matter what). Second, Yuschenko's priveledged past before the "fall" of the Soviet Bloc makes him extremely suspect. Also, see link I posted above.


61 posted on 11/23/2004 9:48:03 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

PS Plenty more links where link on post #59 came from.


62 posted on 11/23/2004 9:49:26 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource
Thanks. I just ordered The Perestroika Deception from Amazon. Looking forward to reading it.

In the meantime, what do you think the US can/should be doing with regard to the Ukraine elections?

63 posted on 11/23/2004 9:51:45 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: cicero's_son

"In the meantime, what do you think the US can/should be doing with regard to the Ukraine elections?"

You should read Golitsyn's New Lies For Old first IMO.

The US needs to expose the phony collapse of the Soviet Union, that the Red Chinese are in on it and working together with the Soviets...solution, cut off all aid and trade with both, watch them both crumble like a house of cards. Ukraine is a side issue...but our intel. services should approach it with a mind to expose all secret structures connecting the current political leadership (to include elements of the oppositions) to Moscow.


64 posted on 11/23/2004 9:58:55 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

BTW, here is an excellent backgrounder on the book(s) you are about to read.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1224848/posts


65 posted on 11/23/2004 10:03:35 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: cicero's_son

BTW, here is an excellent backgrounder on the book(s) you are about to read.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1224848/posts


66 posted on 11/23/2004 10:05:14 PM PST by TapTheSource
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Besides the fact that the EU has no military to speak of, what gives it the right to step into the civil war of another country?

Well, one side or the other could request intervention. Voila! There's the right, or even responsibility.

67 posted on 11/24/2004 1:58:28 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Grzegorz 246
I hope that any real civil war in Ukraine won't happen, because we would have to step in.

Why would the US jump into this one?
68 posted on 11/24/2004 4:23:45 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: cicero's_son
Isn't this Moscow's endgame? ... negotiated "velvet revolution" splitting the country into East and West.
It's the endgame for NATO. And that's why it is also the endgame for Moscow.
Forget about negotiated splitting. What NATO wants, starting with Sevatopol, is located in the wrong half.

69 posted on 11/24/2004 5:33:15 AM PST by Truth666
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To: ARCADIA; Owl558; Grzegorz 246

Grzegorz 246 is Polish. He's talking about Poland jumping in, not us in America.


70 posted on 11/24/2004 8:30:21 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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"He's talking about Poland jumping in, not us in America."

Yes, it took me a minute to figure that out. You can't tell where folks are from without a scorecard any more.

Let freedom ring!


71 posted on 11/24/2004 9:03:33 AM PST by Owl558 (Don't tread on me!)
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anyone know history? Dmitry Samozvanets comes to mind you know the one who was installed by poles & west in Russia and then got shot back by cannon?
Ukraine has the same history when it comes to self proclamed leaders.


72 posted on 11/25/2004 7:04:24 PM PST by eluminate
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To: Grzegorz 246

this election was between 2 major candidates, in US equivalent it would have been John Kerry (Yushchenko, with Soros backing) vs Hillary Clinton (Yanukovich, with communist backing).

that is the "choice" the Ukrainians had... scary...


73 posted on 11/26/2004 4:17:24 AM PST by William of Orange (For sale: da plan, as good as new, make an offer!)
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