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Ryzhkov: NATO, Not Milosevic Guilty in Kosovo
Reuters ^ | Nov 22, 2004 | Emma Thomasson

Posted on 11/22/2004 8:05:35 PM PST by AncientAirs

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Eventually, truth will out.
1 posted on 11/22/2004 8:05:36 PM PST by AncientAirs
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We bombed the wrong side. Milosevic was not the enemy.


2 posted on 11/22/2004 8:15:34 PM PST by oolatec
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To: AncientAirs

This sort of spectacle is what happens when we allow the UN and its system to get involved in military affairs.


3 posted on 11/22/2004 8:25:55 PM PST by Carling (What happened to Sandy Burglar's Docs?)
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no duh!!! I hate clinton and that stupid old bi%#$ for attacking Serbs. I was so upset when the bombing was happening. It was all a popularity contest for Clinton in order to make it seem that he supports Arab/Muslim causes as well to make himself appeal to the Islamic World. Boy what a job! stupid bastrd.


4 posted on 11/22/2004 9:01:17 PM PST by eluminate
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To: AncientAirs
Eventually, truth will out.

Maybe, anyway, Slobo wins another round.

5 posted on 11/22/2004 9:05:14 PM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot
Eventually, truth will out. Maybe, anyway, Slobo wins another round

Slobo, just like this "witness", makes speeches. He doesn't present evidence. The Slobo talking points are that NATO bombing caused the refugees. Meanwhile, the court has documents from UNHCR showing one-fifth the Kosvars were displaced before the bombing and statements & testimony from witnesses saying it wasn't the bobming, but it was the Serbs forcing the Albanians out at the point of a gun during the bobming. The turth is coming out in the trial, but none of it supports Slobo.

6 posted on 11/22/2004 9:40:21 PM PST by mark502inf
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The only hope The Hague has is that Slobo dies before they finish this trial. They will never live down a verdict and he will haunt them forever if he lives to hear one.


7 posted on 11/22/2004 9:52:44 PM PST by Navy Patriot
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Slobo can cry all he wants from whatever prison cell he winds up in - he can join Noriega in the imprisoned and forgotten former maximum leader club.


8 posted on 11/22/2004 10:08:54 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: mark502inf
There's also that Serbian unilateral cease-fire during Orthodox Easter and the commensurate precipitous drop in refugee activity, though NATO operational tempo didn't decrease one bit.

This trial isn't about evidence for some. Never was, never will be.

9 posted on 11/22/2004 10:11:42 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: oolatec
Milosevic was not the enemy.

Well, besides being the guy who put the Former into the Former Yugoslavia, he got into wars (Slovenia, Bosnia, Croatia, Kosovo) or threatened to go to war (Macedonia) with just about every Former constituent part of that country. Lots of death, misery, and ethnic cleansing associated with his form of extremist nationalism, which also resulted in large-scale refugee flows and potential instability & widening of the conflict to other regional countries including NATO allies Greece & Turkey; thereby making Milosevic's action contrary to our nationlal interest.

Slobo also materially supported our enemies:

Slobo had extensive ties with Iraq. Saddam's Serb Suppliers

That wasn't the only Tivat connection. Earlier in the year, American officials had learned that a team of Yugoslav military officers from the base had spent two weeks in Iraq consulting, it was believed, on air defense. Around the same time, professors from the University of Belgrade were both teaching and consulting with Iraqis about air defense--and, perhaps even more disturbing, offense.

Slobo was also high on the list of Saddam's Oil Voucher Recipients

Yugoslavia

1. Socialist Party 22 million

2. Left Party 9.5 million

The Socialist Party is Milosevic's, and the Left Party is the JUL, which was run by Slobo's wife.

Read this article: Serbia, Iraq want united anti-U.S. front - Tanjug

He was also buds with Qadaffi before Muamar was reoriented by our most recent invasion of Iraq: Gaddafi Given Yugoslavia's Top Medal By Milosevic"

Milosevic was our enemy. So say the facts and so also say Bush I, Bush II, Dole, McCain, Powell, and Rumsfeld.

10 posted on 11/22/2004 10:16:57 PM PST by mark502inf
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Slobo won't have to cry at all. He will be forgotten by all, until the mention of the court, then he will be remembered well enough.

You win, you lose. You lose, you lose. Slobo dies before verdict, everyone eventually forgets. That is the best you can hope for.

11 posted on 11/22/2004 10:21:39 PM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: AncientAirs
Eventually, truth will out.

Not with Ryzhkov. He's spouting nonsense.

12 posted on 11/22/2004 10:37:48 PM PST by mark502inf
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There's also that Serbian unilateral cease-fire during Orthodox Easter and the commensurate precipitous drop in refugee activity, though NATO operational tempo didn't decrease one bit.

Thanks, good point.

13 posted on 11/22/2004 11:10:20 PM PST by mark502inf
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The Serbs did the same kinds of atrocities to non-Moslem ethnic groups wishing to leave the Frankenstein's monster known as Yugoslavia. But I do have to agree that members of the Clinton administration should be tried for crimes against humanity for their atrocities in Kosovo. On still another hand...

The ridiculous imbecile Ramsey Clark (formerly attorney general under LBJ, if memory serves; an anti-war associate of John Kerry back in the day) contributed to this critique of the Klintons' and George Soros' nice little war. Among the other contributors to the following title are Slobodan Milosevic and the cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal. It really makes me laugh when such scumballs complain that we don't have free speech in the US. :')

Hidden Agenda: U.S./NATO Takeover of Yugoslavia Hidden Agenda:
U.S./NATO Takeover of Yugoslavia


14 posted on 11/22/2004 11:29:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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Let's see, on the side of the blameless Serbs you have Noam Chomsky, Ramsey Clark, Slobodan Milosevic, Mumia Abu Jamal, Saddam Hussein, Muamar Qaddafi, Fidel Castro antiwar.com, and marxist writer Diana Johnston and her fellow travellers at The Emperors New Clothes.

On the other side you have President George H.W. Bush, Senator Dole, Senator McCain, Colin Powell, President George W. Bush, Tony Blair, and every senior military official involved--to include some still serving such as General John Abizaid.

Choose sides!

15 posted on 11/23/2004 5:28:15 AM PST by mark502inf
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Careful readers of my post note that I never said the Serbs were blameless.


16 posted on 11/23/2004 9:05:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: oolatec

WE didn't bomb the wrong side................CLINTON did


17 posted on 11/23/2004 11:31:51 AM PST by ehoxha
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To: SunkenCiv
I never said the Serbs were blameless.

Sorry, my response was a general comment and not directed at you--my bad!

18 posted on 11/23/2004 1:35:10 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: ehoxha
WE didn't bomb the [Serbs]................CLINTON did

With the moral support of Governor Bush of Texas as well as funding provided by a Congress comprised of Republican majorities in both the House and Senate. Resolutions supporting the war passed, an attempt to cut-off funding was defeated, and an emergency supplemental funding measure to support the war passed.

Q: Is Milosevic’s defeat a triumph for U.S. military intervention? BUSH: I think it’s a triumph. I thought the president made the right decision in joining NATO in bombing Serbia. I supported him when they did so. I think it worked. I’m pleased I made the decision I made, and I’m pleased the president made the decision he made, because freedom took hold in that part of the world. There’s a lot of work left to be done, however. I don’t think he would have fallen had we not used force. Source: Presidential Debate at Wake Forest University Oct 11, 2000

The Senate, on March 23, 1999 passed, 58-41, S.Con.Res. 21, a non-binding resolution that the President was authorized to conduct "military air operations and missile strikes in cooperation with our NATO allies against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia."

On April 28, 1999 the House defeated H.Con.Res. 82, 139-290. This resolution would have directed the President to remove U.S. Armed Forces from the present operations against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

The House on May 6, 1999, by a vote of 117-301, defeated an amendment by Representative Istook to H.R. 1664, the FY1999 defense supplemental appropriations bill, that would have prohibited the expenditure of funds in the bill to implement any plan to use U.S. ground forces to invade Yugoslavia, except in time of war.

Congress, on May 20, 1999 cleared for the President's signature, H.R. 1141, an emergency supplemental appropriations bill for FY1999, that provided billions in funding for the existing U.S. Kosovo operation.

19 posted on 11/23/2004 2:48:23 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: AncientAirs

bump


20 posted on 11/28/2004 9:26:20 PM PST by kimosabe31
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