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Deer hunters shot in Wisconsin
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 11/22/2004 | Joshua Freed

Posted on 11/22/2004 7:20:55 AM PST by Rio

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To: STD
I'll take my BA everytime

Don’t blame you. I have an affinity for the old M1 Garand, myself.

Be interesting if that “goofy looking easterner” you saw is the same guy. Well, we’re more likely to find out what happened here than on TV.

Standing by . . .

21 posted on 11/22/2004 8:08:57 AM PST by MountainPete (democrats are Liars . . . the Truth ain't in 'em!)
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To: Rio

http://www.wisinfo.com/heraldtimes/news/archive/local_16825591.shtml

I don't know what Hmong refugees are but he might be one of them. The above is a link I got when I did a search on his name.


22 posted on 11/22/2004 8:09:25 AM PST by Recall
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

i have a SKS with a scope and it is a good hunting rifle. i also have a 221, 270, and a 284. all with scopes so i just grab the first one i see.


23 posted on 11/22/2004 8:12:14 AM PST by camas
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To: Gingersnap

A man by the name of Chai Vang is mentioned in this article...

http://www.shepherd-express.com/shepherd/20/02/headlines/cover_story.html

Note the frequent references to welfare payments....


24 posted on 11/22/2004 8:14:04 AM PST by Renfield (Philosophy chair at the University of Wallamalloo!!)
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To: MountainPete
If he had a license, he had to know that was not legal (it certainly isn’t here).

Out of curiosity, it the gun illegal or the cartridge. They're not uncommon to see in Wisconsin.

25 posted on 11/22/2004 8:14:05 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: Rio

I don't even believe this guy was there to hunt deer.

I suspect he just wanted to have himself a little shooting spree. What better place than out in the woods, picking off some hunters.

This makes it more of a sport than simply walking into the post office, or MacDonalds. Definitely not a "hunting incident", as it is being portrayed.


26 posted on 11/22/2004 8:14:27 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Robert357

Some years ago I shot a deer with my Mini-30, which uses the same ammo as the SKS. I was using 123-grain soft-point ammo loaded by some outfit in Georgia. The bullet hit right where I aimed (the lungs), but didn't expand...it just punched a neat 30-caliber hole through the deer. This was at sunset in the rain. The doe ran into a thicket of oak saplings and I thought we'd never find her. Fortunately, the fellow who invited me was an expert tracker, and we found the deer. However, I swore off any 7.62X39 gun for deer hunting after that. Now, I always use something that pokes a big hole (12-gauge shotgun or .50-caliber muzzle-loader) so I have a good blood trail to follow, if need be.


27 posted on 11/22/2004 8:18:51 AM PST by Renfield (Philosophy chair at the University of Wallamalloo!!)
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To: MountainPete

He wasn't hunting with an SKS. He left the stand, went to his car and got an SKS, then returned and started shooting people. One story I read said he followed their tracks through the snow and gunned them down as he found them.


28 posted on 11/22/2004 8:20:15 AM PST by Renfield (Philosophy chair at the University of Wallamalloo!!)
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To: SJackson
is the gun illegal or the cartridge

Neither one . . . the legality is concerned with how many rounds are in the gun (and the type of bullet – military type full metal jacket is prohibited). It’s probably not the same everywhere, but three rounds is the limit here.

29 posted on 11/22/2004 8:20:40 AM PST by MountainPete (democrats are Liars . . . the Truth ain't in 'em!)
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To: Recall

Yes, he is a Hmong. These people fought on our side in Vietnam (they are mountain tribesmen who are not ethnically Vietnamese), and after the war, a lot of them came here.


30 posted on 11/22/2004 8:22:05 AM PST by Renfield (Philosophy chair at the University of Wallamalloo!!)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
Originally from Pa. Kinda funny to remember how different hunting was back east with all the ridiculous regulations that were enforced to the hilt by hordes of dep game wardens; in comparison to what hunting is like in Alaska.

Pretty much the only thing the state gets upset about is wasting meat. Road hunting, by boat on the river is the norm. Nobody has even heard about people dressed in orange. Most all the rural people use old military guns and the natives are awful tough to beat with peep sights. We live 185 miles down a dirt road that is closed from oct until may every winter. Usually I take my AR-15 with team sling and ride snowmachine down road until I catch caribou crossing during their migration. Would never even think about shooting one 25 yards off the gravel.

If I ever went back east to go hunting, I'd probably make the news pretty quick. Probably all comes down to how many people live back in Pa.

31 posted on 11/22/2004 8:22:49 AM PST by Eska
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To: SJackson

Both gun and cartridge (.30 cal.) are legal in Wisconsin, but there might be some problem with the magazine; in Michigan for example, you can't take more than a 5-rd mag into the woods.


32 posted on 11/22/2004 8:24:33 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Renfield
Good God! There I go again . . . shooting off my keyboard before I know all the facts. I didn’t know that – that changes everything.

Well, now I’m very curious about this.

33 posted on 11/22/2004 8:25:56 AM PST by MountainPete (democrats are Liars . . . the Truth ain't in 'em!)
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To: MountainPete
In NOrth Dakota, if you want to pack a 75 round drum full on an SKS you can, but it really shouldn't take more than one or two shots to get your deer. I have taken whitetail with a lot less rifle.

Shooting other hunters is not legal, nor is hunting posted land without permission.

Folks here seem to be getting sidetracked about the rifle, and not about the criminal actions of the bearer.

34 posted on 11/22/2004 8:28:36 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: MountainPete

Understood. FMJ is illegal, and I've known hunters with an SKS to attrack a warden's attention, to check the ammo. I'm not aware of any restriction on magazine size, so if there is one it's large enough to have missed my attention, no where near three. Are you required to alter magazines to a 2/3 round capacity?


35 posted on 11/22/2004 8:29:34 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: SJackson
Out of curiosity, it the gun illegal or the cartridge. They're not uncommon to see in Wisconsin.

Just a guess, but probably both the rifle and the cartridge are okay - or at least legal - for deer hunting in Wisconsin. There might be a magazine capacity limit issue, though - I know that there are aftermarket 5-round magazines available for the SKS, and probably "capacity restrictor blocks" that can be stuffed down into the standard 10-round fixed magazine.

I'm not surprised to see mention made of the SKS as a "hunting rifle"; lots of people bought 'em as their first step up from a .22 - mainly because of the ridiculously low price tag. Personally, I think there's some merit to the suspicion that the SKS imports were part of a Chinese plot to destroy American marksmanship (ever feel an SKS' trigger pull?).

This incident illustrates that battle rifles need not be minute-of-angle accurate.

36 posted on 11/22/2004 8:30:08 AM PST by Charles Martel ("Diplomats. The best diplomat I know of is a fully loaded phaser bank" - Cdr. Montgomery Scott)
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To: gieriscm

VA's definitely more enlightened than PA is. I think NJ has the same dumbs regs as we do.


37 posted on 11/22/2004 8:31:29 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Charles Martel; Redbob

They're definitely both OK in Wisconsin, the only applicable restriction I'm aware of is on FMJ ammunition, which is across the board. There's no magazine capacity restriction I'm aware of, though a 10+ regulation wouldn't have caught my attention anyway.


38 posted on 11/22/2004 8:34:35 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: camas

I'd love to use my Class III AR-10, but it's verboten here in PA.


39 posted on 11/22/2004 8:35:15 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Eska

If you ever get back this way, look me up. We'll take my new Barrett M82A1 .50cal BMG out for a spin at the nearby 1,000yd
range.


40 posted on 11/22/2004 8:38:58 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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