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Bush commits to pushing guest-worker legislation
The Daily Review Online ^ | 11/22/2004 | Peter Wallsten and Richard Boudreaux

Posted on 11/22/2004 5:26:41 AM PST by Marine Inspector

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To: Will_Zurmacht
So? Is there a law against free speech somewhere in the border-wedgies' mind?
21 posted on 11/22/2004 6:24:47 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Barlowmaker
Good. We've got to do something about the 6-10 million illgals already here.

Keep up with the news. Since mexico now able to ID their illegals here in the US, I guess they have a better count on them than we do. Mexico papers reporting 10 MILLION illegal mexicans here waiting for the next *reward*.

"Fox hopes to re-energize discussions with the U.S. leader on a possible migration accord that would move towards regularizing the status of an estimated 10 million Mexicans residing in the United States illegally."

You and your Border Patrol pals blew the coverage the last 10 years. We've got to do something to atone for your incompetence.

This stupid comment doesn't even deserve a reply.

22 posted on 11/22/2004 6:35:29 AM PST by txdoda ("Navy Brat")
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To: stopem
5 million ILLEGALS! Doesnt that just make you be able to sleep nites and feel much more secure?

Mexico papers reporting 10 MILLION mexicans here want "regularized". So my guess is at least 15 million illegals in the USA.

'Bout right, our gov't can't even count 'em, but they're ready to 'regularize' them.

23 posted on 11/22/2004 6:42:35 AM PST by txdoda ("Navy Brat")
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To: BlackbirdSST
Yes, even I would not have voted in the Presidential election if he had come right out and campained for the illegal immigrants. The only reason Bush got my vote is because of Kerry. What the powers that be don't seem to understand is that 80 percent of all voters R/D/I alike are against illegal immigration, or then again maybe they do and instead put money before country.

I would like to believe that President Bush is just nieve when it comes to this, but more and more I am starting to believe that he and Fox are in cahoots to turn the US into another Mexican cesspool.

24 posted on 11/22/2004 6:42:45 AM PST by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: Mamzelle
It'd be nice if he showed a little respect to American citizens who get their wages depressed, their ERs shut down, their schools diminished...and who send their sons to fight his war.

Exactly. If the people pushing this legislation were real capitalists, they would let the "market" bear the price of labor - which means they would have to pay more. But no, they are importing damn near slave labor and driving American's wages down.

25 posted on 11/22/2004 6:46:23 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: Marine Inspector
As much as we might not like it, this action on Pres. Bush's part is *payback* for the Hispanic vote. One could argue that the increase in Hispanic voters was enough to turn the election in Bush's favor.

We are stuck with this, folks, for at least four years and maybe longer. By 2050 the country will probably be majority-Hispanic. That's a demographic reality, because Hispanic women right now have the highest fertility rate among all subgroups of Americans: 3 children per woman. That's double the 1.4 children per woman for Euro-ancestry Americans, and higher even than 2.5 per woman *in Mexico.*

There is NO way the GOP is going to turn its back on Hispanic voters at this point. So conservatives have some choices: break off from the GOP and try to form a "nativist" party - which would just about insure Democrat electoral success. Or go with the political flow. Or start having 5-6 children per family (which is the most pie-in-the-sky assumption of all.) There are not a lot of options here, realistically.

26 posted on 11/22/2004 7:09:03 AM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: Marine Inspector

Bush and the GOP is making a big mistake if they think that they got any extra votes from hispanics for this amnesty program. Hispanics voted for Bush based on values - many are catholic and unlike blacks will vote their the principles of their faith.


27 posted on 11/22/2004 7:26:25 AM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: Mamzelle
If this is what he wants to spend his "capital" on

This isn't the only issue in the universe. He's also spending his political capital on cleaning up the CIA and State, along with a myriad of other items that he will address.

28 posted on 11/22/2004 7:41:19 AM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Marine Inspector

Yes, it's always oil. Like the war in Iraq....right?

Not


29 posted on 11/22/2004 7:41:51 AM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Cultural Jihad

Yes. They despise the sound of the Spanish language being spoken.

It's a sickness they have.


30 posted on 11/22/2004 7:44:04 AM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Marine Inspector

This was darned near a deal breaker for me.

Bush is lucky that Kerry is such a thoroughly comtemptible character.


31 posted on 11/22/2004 7:47:30 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Marine Inspector
If that were the case, I'd at least feel we were getting something from this strange and unlovely love affair between Bush and Fox. If you'd care to show me that we are getting some oil out of this, it would encourage me.

My own take is that Bush has some sort of personal hangup that the rest of us get to pay for.

32 posted on 11/22/2004 7:48:34 AM PST by Mamzelle (Nov 3--Psalm One...Blessed is the man...!)
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To: txdoda

Barlowmaker must be having a bad morning.

Every comment he's posted today on other threads has been antagonistic.

Maybe he had to sleep on the couch last night.


33 posted on 11/22/2004 8:03:48 AM PST by EEDUDE (Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
You are not alone. Hillary is with you. See for example: I really really hope that Hillary doesn't win, on an immigrant bashing theme resembling the Jew bashing theme that Hitler came to power on.
34 posted on 11/22/2004 8:12:18 AM PST by ThePythonicCow (Welcome home, Vietnam Vets.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
Immigration is the one issue that would ever cause me to abandon the Republican party.

I've already abandoned the Republican Party, because of immigration.

35 posted on 11/22/2004 8:46:01 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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36 posted on 11/22/2004 8:47:26 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: stopem
Why doesnt Fox take care of his own people instead of pushing them and his problems off on us?

Taking care of his own people, would mean stopping corruption, which is the same as taking all of his money and giving it to the people. He's not about to do that.

It's easier to send the problem north and have it send money south to him.

37 posted on 11/22/2004 8:48:26 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: stopem
Before there is any workers program shouldn't the borders be better protected and not allow anymore in?

A guest worker program will never work, with out controlling the border first or making sure we can enforce our employment laws.

38 posted on 11/22/2004 8:50:06 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: chatham
On this issue Bush couldn't be more wrong and he is spitting in the faces of most of the people who put him back in office.

I agree.

I voted for Bush.

I didn’t, because I knew he would do this.

39 posted on 11/22/2004 8:51:27 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector; All

any guest worker visa must be NONCONVERTABLE to another status. A guest worker may not apply for permanent residency or citizenship.

Guest means guest, they will leave.

If they want a permanent status they have to apply through their home countries' US consolates.

(the same rule exists now with the visa waver program)


40 posted on 11/22/2004 8:51:49 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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