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Posted on 11/20/2004 7:52:12 PM PST by Destro
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posted on
11/20/2004 7:52:12 PM PST
by
Destro
To: Destro
![](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2004/11/20/wchurch20.jpg)
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger
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posted on
11/20/2004 7:53:12 PM PST
by
Destro
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To: Destro
Cardinal Ratzinger is an extraordinary man, and on top of everything else he is a genuinely creative theologian. His early work, "Christian Brotherhood," is worth reading whether or not you are a Catholic, and he has also done some ground-breaking work on ecclesiology.
But there's not a chance in the world that he will be the next pope. Let's just hope they find someone with similar potential. Many pressing issues remain to be dealt with, and non-Catholics as well as Catholics will be effected by the choice that is made.
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posted on
11/20/2004 7:58:04 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Nil illegitemus carborundum est)
To: Destro
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer..... Advice the Vatican seems not to have heeded. The enemy is barking at the door of all of Christianity.
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:01:54 PM PST
by
Just Lori
(Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!!!)
To: Destro; Mershon; Cronos
"If Cardinal Ratzinger became Pope, it is safe to assume that the reconversion of Europe would be his aim."
GOOD!
"But is this guardian of Vatican orthodoxy ready to consider compromise on matters of doctrine for the sake of a united Christian front against secularism and jihad? It is an enticing prospect."
What is that supposed to mean? American Christians are on the march! The Vatican can lead, follow or get out of the way; it makes no difference to us. The same goes for the Orthodox Patriarchates. The finer points of Doctrine (unless of course one is an Episcopalian or some other "mainline, inclusive, diversity type protestant) have little or nothing to do with it.
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:02:19 PM PST
by
Kolokotronis
(Nuke the Cube!)
To: Destro
The Christian Church needs to get over Europe.
Christianity is thriving in Asia and Africa, not to mention North America.
It is also having a resurgence in Russia.
Was it a crisis when the light of the Church went out in Asia, the last 1500 years, when it had reached China and India within a generation after Christ ?
No.
Europeans need to get over themselves.
I hope the next Pope is African.
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:02:53 PM PST
by
happygrl
To: Destro
Cardinal Ratzinger sounds like my type of guy.
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:04:42 PM PST
by
Ciexyz
(I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie.)
To: Ciexyz
Calling Father Martin...calling Father Martin...Malachi Martin...Please pick up the phone.
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:09:13 PM PST
by
weenie
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
To: Spanaway Lori
Read
Windswept House by Father Malachi Martin...
It isn't just the Church that is under attack...humanity is under attack.
But we have a Defender...
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:12:27 PM PST
by
weenie
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
To: weenie
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:13:51 PM PST
by
Destro
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To: Destro
Try it...Malachi Martin (a Jesuit, a good man) wrote it..
it will curl your hair.
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:18:00 PM PST
by
weenie
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
To: Cicero
God bless Cardinal Ratzinger.
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:19:20 PM PST
by
Baraonda
(I just paid all my taxes and am worried. I still have some money left.)
To: weenie
Here is the Amazon link...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0385492316/qid=1101010776/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/103-8075449-1003862
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:21:20 PM PST
by
weenie
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
To: Destro
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:22:12 PM PST
by
weenie
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
To: Destro
I recommend this book only by also admitting that there are many fine and holy men and women who seek God and Jesus though the Catholic faith...
Yet, like many, I believe that God transends denomination.
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:27:15 PM PST
by
weenie
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
To: weenie
It is a work of fiction, though?
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:28:11 PM PST
by
Destro
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To: Destro
[...the implication is that anybody who defends Christian orthodoxy is now excluded from public life...]
Not much has changed in the last 2004 years.
To: Destro
It is a Roman a Clef (a novel in a key)...it is truth but some of the names have been changed to protect the innocent. Father Martin is quite devout and, I don't think, would lie. But the truth is in the reading...
The truth is a dangerous thing.
It got Jesus crucified...
It got Father Martin killed.
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:32:38 PM PST
by
weenie
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
To: Destro
Destro...if you do read this or anything related...
do so when your faith is strong...this is not for the weak of faith...
If you are not strong now...wait.
If you are strong now...I think you will find that the cause of Him needs you like never before...
Be careful...In Jesus name...
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:36:42 PM PST
by
weenie
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
To: weenie
You are still talking about that work of fiction? Right?
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posted on
11/20/2004 8:38:18 PM PST
by
Destro
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