Posted on 11/20/2004 11:46:06 AM PST by TrebleRebel
But what's going on with Iran here? The ID card also included an apparent reference to the date of the 1953 coup in Iran that overthrew Mossadegh.
It would be interesting to get that telephone directory page, or whatever it is, translated.
Can you help us here?
(Post #277)
The post in the link does not look like Farsi to me.
But maybe I'm wrong.
"Do you want me to get the Arabic translated???"
I don't particularly care. Someone else might want to. Frankly I haven't followed this thread lately and don't know why the number is particularly important but M. pinged me and so I put it into a search engine.
But it's an interesting coincidence indeed. As for numerology tracing dates in history, from what I can tell these Islamists could trace a gripe to every day of the calendar!
On second thought
looks as if it is Farsi after all.
Difficult to tell
since technical terms often are the same
in Arabic and Farsi.
I don't think a translation will tell us very much:
a lot of technical stuff
telecommunications, etc,
some kind of log and directory
it seems.
Links to Iranian government web pages
all of which seem to be obsolete
The language is Persian.
Why are you interested in this?
Khashayar:
People are wondering
why an Arab terrorist would have a Persian telephone number
on his false identity card.
(See post #202)
If you look down the table
to where the number 8248484 is
it might be interesting to know
what is the meaning of the Persian
in the two columns to the left.
The first
immediately to the left
I read as 'Muhendis Qasim' (Engineer Qasim).
Is that correct?
The next entry to the left
(Azadagan (?))
I don't know what that means
perhaps you can tell us.
The words
at the top of the column
mean, I believe,
'The telephone # of the Unit'
is that correct?
Sorry to bother you with this nonsense
it all is part of a Sherlock Holmes game
to track down the perpetrators
of the anthrax mailings.
It's been going on now for 3 1/2 years
getting nowhere
but has provided a lot of fun
for many people
who have lots of time on their hands.
('Muhendis Qasim' (Engineer Qasim). )
Sorry, not Qasim, but Fatimi (?)
which I presume is a proper name (?)
k
let me check
Engineer Ghasemi who is the director of PHONE LINE difficulties in AZADEGAN Telecommunication center in city of Shiraz south of Iran.
The number on that false ID is a UK number.
Thank you for helping out with this.
I'm thinking that the Shiraz phone number may be a coincidence. I originally thought that the phone numbers on the ID card weren't in the UK, since 071 didn't show up in a list of UK city codes, but it turns out that this is an old city code (or area code or whatever it's called) for London, which has since been changed. See this link.
What was your reason for saying that the number was in the UK? (I know that the address looks like a London address, but that seems to be fake.)
Shiraz area code is 0711 now not 071.
For example, if you wanna dial a number in Shiraz, you should dial
0098-711- 123 4567
Thank you very much for your help.
I once spent a few days
back in the time of the Shah
(zaman-i-Shah)
travelling around Iran
in a rented car.
It is a beautiful country
and I hope to go back
when it is free.
I think we can safely say that the phone number on the Shiraz web page was a coincidence.
That still leaves us with the question of the phone numbers on the ID card.
They could be real London numbers, of course. I haven't come across an on-line reverse phone directory for the UK; there's a good chance that this is too long ago for a current directory to be useful anyway.
On the other hand, most of the rest of the card is fake, and the phone numbers could be made up too. If so, they may have a meaning, rather than simply being randomly selected. However, I don't have a clue as to what they might mean (if anything).
LoL
Good that you still remember Persian words. Zaman e Shah means the Shah era.
Yes, that time, Iran was a great country. SIGH
Right.
Some-day an historian is going to have a heyday with FreeRepublic.
Read old threads. Read them and reread them. Total immersion, the eightfold way.
Many who post have an agenda. Some who post are players. As you read, you will realise who knows more than they are saying. You'll see who is working with whom. Take nada at face value... always ask yourself the motivation.
Yes, this is cryptic. You have to read the collected works for yourself, absorb the Gestalt.
Back to Kathy Nguyen... I am not the first person to suggest this potzibility...
Look at http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/909401/posts ... link on the Wayback Machine ... a Wash. Post article posted by TGS on how the FBI was going to start pond-draining near Ft Detrick because of << compelling >> evidence divers had brought up ...
In this thread appeared this exchange:
Testing the pond waters, so to speak. No one rose to the bait.
To: The Great Satan
The five people who died from inhalation anthrax included two postal workers at the Brentwood postal facility in Washington, a Florida photojournalist, a New York hospital worker and a 94-year-old woman in Connecticut.
I'm not sure about the Connecticut woman, but the Asian (Vietnamese?) hospital woman's infection and death was a key clue IMHO.
7 posted on 05/11/2003 12:34 AM EDT by Fred Mertz
To: Fred Mertz
how was she a key clue? i think the hospital worker and old woman in Conn, who were not targeted by letters directly, got it through exposed mail.
10 posted on 05/11/2003 12:41 AM EDT by oceanview
To: oceanview
I think the hospital worker was an unwitting courier. That's based only on gut feel and previous discussions. I'm embarassed that I don't even recall her name.
18 posted on 05/11/2003 12:48 AM EDT by Fred Mertz
Give me a break!!
I have been talking to people. What I hear - There was a ineffective anthrax attack at end of February of 2003. The feds kept a lid on the copper pot, neither being desirous of stirring the ladle of publicity nor of admitting the failure to reduce US bio-vulnerability. The FBI are not just working on the 2001 spore-laden letters, but on prevention or mitigation of ongoing related criminality.
Has been dubbed weaponised or semiweaponised.
Was thought to have encompassed both a letter campaign with threatening messages and an outdoor delivery trial.
Best estimate of date is 24 Feb 2003.
[ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1165194/posts, numbers 112 and 145. ]
With the 2nd anniversary of the ineffective anthrax attack coming up on February 24, and with Feb. 26 following on its heels, now would be a good time to heed your advice and read the FR threads from February, 2003. Sometimes people miss things when they happen that are glaringly transparent later, in the light of future events.
John,and everyone else: I'm "re-researching" some of the publicly available facts on the case ,including a series of archived articles in New Scientist.
I really don't want to speculate over hidden meanings in false ID cards,or what Kathy Ngyuen had to do to survive in Vietnam.(I'm not saying these are not worthwhile avenues-just that I haven't seen anything in all of the posts and responses that would persuade me to research them further at this time.)
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