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Conservatives Go RINO Hunting :The...Specter flap...GOP's right wing flexing its muscles
Time Inc ^ | Friday, Nov. 19, 2004 | Mitch Frank

Posted on 11/19/2004 1:50:49 PM PST by Ed Current

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Pro-Life Groups: Arlen Specter Will be Held Accountable on ...
Tom Minnery, vice president of government and public policy at Focus on the Family Action, said he was hopeful that Specter "will respond in the fashion that he apparently has promised, so that the president's judicial nominations and other important legislation can go through quickly and cleanly."
Roberta Combs, president of the Christian Coalition, told the Washington Post that pro-life judicial nominees should be able to get through the committee, even with Specter at the helm.
Despite the assurances from Specter in a statement he released Thursday, others were concerned about the result of the Specter debate.
"It seems that the Senate is protecting the rules of the club more than what won the election," Jayd Henricks, director of congressional relations for the Family Research Council, told the Washington Times. "Here we have somebody being put in maybe the most important committee position, who has a history of opposing the very values that won the election."
"People are going to watch how he conducts that committee," Henricks said. "We feel like a message was sent, and we are hopeful the message was heard."
Jan LaRue of Concerned Women for America said she is concerned that Specter's statement promising quick action on nominees is nothing new than what he said during the weeks after his controversial comments.
"Specter read from a prepared statement, but said nothing new or different from what he has said since Nov. 3, as he's scrambled to 'clarify' the statement that got him in all the trouble," LaRue said.
Pro-life South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham assured worried pro-life advocates that the Senate Judiciary Committee would strongly support Bush's pro-life judicial picks.
"Time will come when the president sends over a nominee, maybe for the Supreme Court, and our committee will support our president, and we will do everything we can to make sure that nominee is fairly treated," Graham said.
Dr. James Dobson, Focus on the Family founder and president, said pro-life advocates would be watching Specter and holding him accountable.
"The senator will have ample opportunity in his new position to follow through on his pledged support for the values of the Bush administration, the Senate leadership and the majority of this nation's voters," Dobson said. "As the outcry of the past two weeks demonstrates, neither the Republican Party nor the American people will tolerate obstructionist politics when it comes to the confirmation of judicial nominees."

1 posted on 11/19/2004 1:50:49 PM PST by Ed Current
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To: Coleus; MHGinTN; cpforlife.org
The voters of PA have spoken.

The GOP Senate is unanimous.

The Pro-Lifer leaders are pacified.

The Specter of abortions past, present and future will head the Senate Judiciary committee.

I wonder what this woman's opinion is:

House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, July 20, 2000:

"My name is Gianna Jessen. I would like to say thank you for the opportunity to speak today. I count it no small thing to speak the truth. I depend solely on the grace of God to do this. I am 23 years old. I was aborted and I did not die. My biological mother was 7 months pregnant when she went to Planned Parenthood in southern California and they advised her to have a late-term saline abortion.
A saline abortion is a solution of salt saline that is injected into the mothers womb. The baby then gulps the solution, it burns the baby inside and out and then the mother is to deliver a dead baby within 24 hours.
This happened to me! I remained in the solution for approximately 18 hours and was delivered ALIVE on April 6, 1977 at 6:00 am in a California abortion clinic. There were young women in the room who had already been given their injections and were waiting to deliver dead babies. When they saw me they experienced the horror of murder. A nurse called an ambulance, while the abortionist was not yet on duty, and had me transferred to the hospital. I weighed a mere two pounds. I was saved by the sheer power of Jesus Christ.
Ladies and gentleman I should be blind, burned.....I should be dead! And yet, I live! Due to a lack of oxygen supply during the abortion I live with cerebral palsy. [...] Adolph Hitler once said: '"The receptive ability of the great masses is only very limited, their understanding is small; on the other hand their forgetfulness is great. This being so, all effective propaganda should be limited to a very few points which in turn, should be used as slogans until the very last man is able to imagine what is meant by such words.'" Today's slogans are: "'a woman's right to choose"' and "freedom of choice," etcetera. Jessen testimony.wpd
 

 

2 posted on 11/19/2004 1:51:48 PM PST by Ed Current
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To: Ed Current
Still, it’s amazing how quickly the religious right has redirected all the energy they used to help re-elect President Bush toward scuttling Specter’s chairmanship. They seem to be the only people in politics who didn’t need a post-election vacation. It shows they believe Bush’s victory has given them a mandate to control the Republican party. But it also shows that they are insecure about the party’s loyalty to them, and that the Republicans could be facing four years of growing tension and squabbling.

Yep, sums it up nicely.

3 posted on 11/19/2004 1:53:48 PM PST by JanetteS (My heart is as light as a song!)
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To: Ed Current
"Republicans could be facing four years of growing tension and squabbling."

'Wasted away again in Liberalfantasyville...'

This affair has turned out terrifically, better than I had hoped.

The Republican Senate is safe, united, disciplined and ready to rumble.

4 posted on 11/19/2004 1:59:58 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: mrsmith; JanetteS
Republican National Coalition for Life

The Chicago Sun Times (11/11/04) says Senator Arlen Specter wants a private meeting with Republican members of the Senate Judiciary Committee next week in order to "hash things out," according to Texas Senator John Cornyn, a former Texas Supreme Court judge, who appears to be emerging as a key player in the fight over whether Specter will be awarded the chairmanship of the powerful Judiciary Committee. It is unclear what Senator Cornyn’s role actually is. He says he wants to find out what Specter intends to do regarding Bush nominees to the federal courts. That sounds a bit like he might vote for him, provided Specter says the right things. Let Senator Cornyn, the other GOP members of the Judiciary Committee, and every Republican Senator (all are members of the Senate Republican Caucus and all will likely have a say in this matter) that Senator Arlen Specter is totally unacceptable for the position of chairman for the following reasons:

Senator Specter "is an avid supporter of the International Criminal Court (ICC) which would subject our military personnel to prosecution for war crimes before hostile international judges, and deny them the protections of our Constitution." In 2002, the U.S. Senate overwhelmingly passed and President Bush signed, the American Servicemembers Protection Act that exempted our military from the threat of the ICC. However, Senator Specter was among the few in the Senate and the only Republican, who voted against this amendment." (Concerned Women for America Press Release, 11/11/04) President Bush opposes the ICC, as do most Americans.

That Awful Specter- some Arlen Specter links

5 posted on 11/19/2004 2:02:10 PM PST by Ed Current
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To: Ed Current
I for one am quite pleased that President Bush is focusing on Social Security and tax code reform. He ran on an "ownership society" above all, and that is right where he should be.

He spoke of promoting a "culture of life" but he certainly did not campaign on a fundamentalist agenda.
Religious conservatives need to settle down if they hope for any of the President's agenda to be inacted.

isolationists and foreign policy realists unhappy about the war

I didn't realize there were any isolationists (paleocons) left in the GOP. I'm also a bit suspicious of the term "foreign policy realists" applied in this context.
6 posted on 11/19/2004 2:02:36 PM PST by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: counterpunch

post #5


7 posted on 11/19/2004 2:03:21 PM PST by Ed Current
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To: Ed Current

I notice the MSM is refraining from blaming Karl Rove for this one. That's amusing, because for once he's actually the guy behind this mess.

Rove didn't make Dan Rather peddle forged documents on 60 Minutes, but he did step in to ensure the re-election of Arlen Specter.


8 posted on 11/19/2004 2:03:41 PM PST by Cicero (Nil illegitemus carborundum est)
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To: JanetteS

And I guarantee you the media will make sure that the MINORITY of the Republican party, THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT, will be heard and made to appear a bigger part than they are. And we're playing right into that. I will not stop saying this. This election was not about abortion.


9 posted on 11/19/2004 2:06:04 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: mrsmith
This affair has turned out terrifically, better than I had hoped.

The Republican Senate is safe, united, disciplined and ready to rumble.

My sentiments EXACTLY. Specter caused his own problem, I thought they handled it very well, the Time Inc's characterization is just MSM drivel, why would we expect any less from them?

10 posted on 11/19/2004 2:08:34 PM PST by Mister Baredog ((DO IT NOW, if you haven't put up a flag on your FR homepage yet,PLEASE))
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To: Hildy
I agree. Someone said on another thread today that every person who voted for Bush had a different reason. And I think that's true, we all have our own issues that we place different priorities on.

I'm getting tired of being "stereotyped" by the left in their effort to find out what they did wrong.
11 posted on 11/19/2004 2:12:17 PM PST by JanetteS (My heart is as light as a song!)
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To: Cicero
Rove didn't make Dan Rather peddle forged documents on 60 Minutes

He didn't?
I though Karl Rove was Master of All Evil!!?!

Anyways, no, this is not Karl Rove's doing. It is the GOP's own fault for the idiotic seniority rules adopted in the mid '90s. It was one of the many debilitating reforms they brought to their own caucus in an attempt to set an example for Democrats on how to tie their own hands. The Democrats respectfully declined. Now the GOP is all bogged down with these anachronistic rules.
12 posted on 11/19/2004 2:13:49 PM PST by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: counterpunch

I was prepared to call for a Barf Alert for that article, but it was good. I like the part about (us) not taking time off after the election. Maybe we would have if Specter had. His "don't mess with me" statement came the same day as the count became known.

The like you remarked about was, I guess, pointing to people like Pat Buchanan. I don't consider him a Bush conservative. He hates the neo-cons and really only endorsed Bush because Kerry was so inept.

I agree with the statements about getting on with the "ownership society" bills. That is gonna cause a lot of conflict with dems, so we need to get started. But, even though the comics all liked to say that Bush couldn't walk and chew gum, I believe he can and will, once the new congress comes in in Jan.


13 posted on 11/19/2004 2:14:10 PM PST by Txsleuth (Proud to be a Texan)
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To: Mister Baredog
If they keep this up only stupid people will be calling them 'the stupid party'.

Specter supporting the "nuclear option" now... that's bad news for the liberals.

14 posted on 11/19/2004 2:15:52 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Txsleuth

I have no clue what I was trying to say in the first sentence of the second paragraph!!!!!!!! I know that I was trying to refer to the paleo-cons, I think?????

I have a bad cold and I think the medicine is making me goofy----Sorry ya'll.


15 posted on 11/19/2004 2:17:32 PM PST by Txsleuth (Proud to be a Texan)
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To: Ed Current

I'm actually proud of the many members on this board for being well organized and quick to act, without getting themselves worked up into a unproductive frothy lather of hysteria.

Bravo!


16 posted on 11/19/2004 2:17:32 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: JanetteS

All the left has right now is there smear and fear strategy. The next four years is going to be about how the religious right is controlling the country. This is going to get loud and mean and I don't think it's a correct assessment about our Party.


17 posted on 11/19/2004 2:21:00 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: JanetteS; Hildy

They are trying to sterotype Bush's supporters as radical fundamentalist evangelical Christians. I am Christian, but that is about as far as that description goes.

I agree that all of us voted for different reasons, but I think we all would agree that we don't want a RINO trying to help the left get their agenda passed instead of the REpublicans, right?


18 posted on 11/19/2004 2:21:36 PM PST by Txsleuth (Proud to be a Texan)
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To: Cicero
Rove didn't make Dan Rather peddle forged documents on 60 Minutes, but he did step in to ensure the re-election of Arlen Specter.

Yes, to the fever swamp cuckoo birds of the left, AND the fever swamp cuckoo birds of the right - Karl Rove is one part Rasputin, one part the Bogey Man.

Karl Rove is the source of all pain and betrayal in this world Cicero. Cuckoo! Cuckoo! Cuckoo!

19 posted on 11/19/2004 2:23:46 PM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: Ed Current
It shows they believe Bush’s victory has given them a mandate to control the Republican party. But it also shows that they are insecure about the party’s loyalty to them,

He's got that one exactly right. And they should doubt it for obvious reasons. And conservatives against immigration and also the Bush-pushed nazi New Freedom Initiative also have lost trust. The Specter deal where RepublicRat senators gave the bird to the thousands who called and emailed and support him anyway are only adding fuel to a necessary fire...as in FIRE them next election.

20 posted on 11/19/2004 2:24:36 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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