I think by far the more crucial issue is the ability of the media to define the standards. To take a 'shrug it off' approach simply allows them to push further and further as they undoubtedly will in the pursuit of the lowest common denominator.
Posted on 11/19/2004 4:42:28 AM PST by TGOMedia
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funny how you just couldn't explain that taking off one's clothes in public is just plain wrong, instead of rationalizing the behavior for him. now he knows how to get attention - good job.
I don't get what the big deal is. Desperate Housewives is a trash show, as with most of what's on broadcast.
Yes, because he was having a tremendous anount of trouble getting attention before.
I was more bothered by the bad acting and humorless script than I was the "intent" of the spot ...
I think by far the more crucial issue is the ability of the media to define the standards. To take a 'shrug it off' approach simply allows them to push further and further as they undoubtedly will in the pursuit of the lowest common denominator.
I didn't see it so I'll take your word for it. They should make a good tasteless commercial if they're going to make one *lol*
Society still can't handle the interracial aspect of this flirting episode. Otherwise, you would have heard nothing of this poor attempt at show promotion.
I am amazed that the same ABC that wouldn't show "Saving Private Ryan" because they were terrified of the Christian Taliban, found no problem in putting nekkid wimmen in prime time and then whining about how we just don't understand....
I used the same reasoning with my kids when they were young enough to know the difference; and I still use it with my grandson at race meetings where an abundance of Hooter Girl types saunter about. In fact, our family joke is "It's too bad they don't pay those girls enough to buy clothes that fit them!"
maybe now if somebody on the street asks him to stip for money he'll think that Janet Jackson did it and it wasn't wrong.
A society without ethics has no standards. a society without standards has no control. if there is no standards there is no wrong behavior. We inculcate our children with the idea that some things are wrong. just plain wrong. otherwise how are they to know? everything just becomes a matter of taste.
"But the conservative movement has lost the ability to roll its eyes, recognize when something is merely silly, and leave well enough alone."
I don't believe this is a conservative ranting point at all. Between "Saving Private Ryan," wihch had already been aired four times, the football incident and a few others, I think there is an effort through staged outrage to get the FCC to actually define what is and is not acceptable. The FCC has made some silly calls of late notably the "F as a verb vs. adjective" ruling.
I think this is mostly staged by those who want some sort of coherency from the FCC.
I give my kids straight answers, but they also need to know how we should conduct ourselves. I watch football because I like football and I do not watch "desperate Housewives" because I know what it is. The fact that ABC or CBS ambushes its viewers is what is garbage. The halftime show sucked before the tit came out, my kids weren't watching, but I understand how people would object. What if someone read from the book of Psalms for two minutes before the game? Would there be objections from the other side? What if someone came on and preached a twenty minute sermon at halftime?
It doesn't take much of an intellect to rationalize why anything done is ok.I could do it too, I would just be lying to myself.
But not everyone agrees with you that someone taking their clothes off is all that wrong really. Sad, yes. Very very wrong, no.
Anyone who reads the column and believes "everything is being condoned" should pay much closser attention to the last paragraph. Not everything is acceptable; but not everything is patently unacceptable.
The issue, to me, is with television broadcasters, who are entrusted with tle broadcasting franchise that belongs to the people. Entrusted with maintining their broasdcast content within local norms, that they would presume to give us, as parents, so many "teaching moments".
That scene would have earned a movie a PG-13 rating for "adult content" or "adult situations".
Was there a PG-13 warning at the beginning of the show? How, precisely is this stupid V-Chip stuff supposed to work if the broadcasters don't uphold their part of the bargain?
What a load.
I think alot of people are sick of being flashed. There is no difference in what Janet did and the 'flasher in a raincoat' and frankly I'm tired of being drawn into a program like the Superbowl only to have my home and children sexually assulted by exhibitionists.
Good question - I haven't paid attention to a show's rating since they began using that system years ago. As for the V-chip, someone else will have to answer that ... I don't know for sure, but I am assuming that it went out with disco. If someone has one, please let us know ...
well our society, not me personally, has determined that this is wroong a long time ago. and if a 40 year old is ok to strip in public, why not an 8 year old?
and if it is ok to strip, then why not touching? caressing? stimulating? Copulating? Voluntary/involuntary?
if we cede our behavioral ethics - we are saying that they no longer matter. that makes it harder to try to put the brakes on. where do we stop?
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