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Fallujah killing 'war crime' [“ ...death or life without parole if found guilty”]
The Australian ^ | November 17, 2004 | From correspondents in Washington

Posted on 11/17/2004 1:47:01 PM PST by johnny7

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To: johnny7

We need to dump the Geneva Convention, Americans are naturally kind enough to their prisoners without threatening laws hanging over their heads.

I don't like seeing our troops and their morale, future, and lives, at risk because they are tied to a treaty that no one but us upholds.


42 posted on 11/17/2004 2:03:47 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: PatriotGirl827

I didn't know that. I will buy in Sears.


43 posted on 11/17/2004 2:03:56 PM PST by angelanddevil2
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To: johnny7

I want to see them go after the inbred reporter who knew the circumstances of the mosque and those inside and DIDN'T bother to inform the Marine squad.

IMO, it is Sites who should be brought up on charges, if any are to be levied.


44 posted on 11/17/2004 2:03:59 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Casloy
Joe Stork Ostrich, Washington director of the Middle East division of Human Rights Watch.

Hey Joe, Get your head out of your... er sand.

45 posted on 11/17/2004 2:04:11 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: johnny7

I can't believe the overreaction to this. This was not an "atrocity". It was not a "war crime." It's not as if the soldiers took blindfolded, handcuffed prisoners, lined them up against a wall and said "let's execute them."

As evidenced by the fact that the other wounded guy who showed his hands was not shot, the soldiers did not go in there with the intent to "execute" people.

This was just a typical "fog of war" situation in which a soldier, erring on the side of caution, may have made a mistake.

Something like this probably happened thousands of times in WWII.

The only reason to publicize a situation like this would be if the reporter had seen many such situations and felt there was a pattern of wrongdoing that was not being addressed by the military. That was clearly not the case, judging by the comments of Kevin Sites and every other embedded reporter. Otherwise, there was no reason to release this particular video to the world. I'm sure the cameraman took many hours of footage. Why was this one snippet deemed important enough to highlight?

The damage done (in that this now will be misinterpreted and exaggerated all over the Arab world) was not worth whatever the reporters hoped to achieve (which was what?)

I hate journalists.


46 posted on 11/17/2004 2:04:26 PM PST by saquin
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To: angelanddevil2
I just bought Whirlpool (fridge, range, dishwasher, and microwave). I think Whirlpool and Kenmore are made by the same company. I haven't tried them yet as my house isn't finished, but Kenmore is a very reliable product.
47 posted on 11/17/2004 2:04:40 PM PST by asp1
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To: johnny7
Amnesty International spokesman Alistair Hodgett

I wonder if this guy's ever been shot at.

48 posted on 11/17/2004 2:04:42 PM PST by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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To: Publius6961

I only worry that the DOD will be swayed by the leftist political orthodoxy (Not PC, that phrase has no meaning), and will punish this marine unfairly to try to buy good press.

Where in the HELL is the justice for all who have died in the pursuit of Goodness and Decency for God's Sake?


49 posted on 11/17/2004 2:04:44 PM PST by johnb838 (and Allawi replied: "To hell they will go.")
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To: johnny7
Of particular concern, said Mr Hodgett, were comments in the past by US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld calling "war on terror" suspects "killers" and "the worst of the worst". "Sadly I think some of the consequences of this (attitude) have played out on the battlefield," Mr Hodgett said.

You betcha, Hodgett - the Marine was much more incensed at Rummy's comments than he was at being shot in the face the day before.

And BTW, I thought HRW was against the death penalty?

50 posted on 11/17/2004 2:04:49 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: johnny7

NO PRISONERS


51 posted on 11/17/2004 2:05:07 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Was al-Deadmeat wearing a uniform? No? Geneva Convention satisfied.

Rightee-o! And exactly which country's military have we broken GenevCon with??? These are neither citizens nor soldiers, just costumed impersonators from terrorist-sponsored countries like Syria, Iran and who knows where else.

52 posted on 11/17/2004 2:06:12 PM PST by steenkeenbadges
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To: xzins

I absolutely agree with you.


53 posted on 11/17/2004 2:06:24 PM PST by highlandbreeze
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To: asp1

Oh, by the way I bought all of my appliances from Sears.


54 posted on 11/17/2004 2:06:40 PM PST by asp1
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To: RaceBannon

They know exactly what they do.


55 posted on 11/17/2004 2:07:24 PM PST by johnb838 (and Allawi replied: "To hell they will go.")
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To: johnny7
Two men from region killed in Iraq The Mercury News ^ | November 17, 2004 | Chuck Carroll, Sandra Gonzales and Ken McLaughlin

Posted on 11/17/2004 3:29:07 PM EST by Syncro

As the war continued to take its toll, parents in Live Oak and Gilroy learned this week that their only sons had been killed in Iraq.

Marine Lance Cpl. Jeramy Ailes, 22, of Gilroy was killed Monday in Al-Fallujah by small arms fire.

``They had finished mopping up in Fallujah and they went back to double-check on some insurgents. From what we gathered, somebody playing possum jumped up and shot him,'' said his father, Joel Ailes, who learned of his death Monday evening. ``It's extremely hard.''

This Marine did the right thing in killing the wounded.
56 posted on 11/17/2004 2:09:29 PM PST by boxerblues
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To: johnny7
Mr Fidell said he anticipated a general-court martial in which the suspect could be sentenced to death or life without parole if found guilty, but added that was highly unlikely because of extenuating circumstances.

I anticipate this will not go to trial you ass Fidell.

57 posted on 11/17/2004 2:09:37 PM PST by demlosers
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To: Diogenesis

As an automation engineering professional and a business owner, I will push Rockwell Automation, even Siemens (yes, I know, German), Group Schneider (Modicon, yes, I know, French), but will only specify GE's industrial products ONLY IF THE CLIENT ABSOLUTELY INSISTS ON IT!


58 posted on 11/17/2004 2:09:43 PM PST by Fred Hayek
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To: johnny7
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

Goebbels would have loved to have been able to place Mildred Gillars and William Joyce in the Allied press. Instead Germany had to broadcast their BS where they became known to the Allies as "Lord Haw Haw" and "Axis Sally".

59 posted on 11/17/2004 2:10:12 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: asp1

I'm pretty sure all Kenmore appliances are still manufactured by Whirlpool Corp.


60 posted on 11/17/2004 2:11:17 PM PST by wrathof59 (semper ubi sub ubi)
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