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SR kidnap suspect once artistic genius
The Press Democrat ^ | November 17, 2004 | PAUL PAYNE

Posted on 11/17/2004 10:35:44 AM PST by Tamar1973

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Mr. Schwartz is a child of divorce who admitted to experimenting with psychedelic drugs (probably in a futile attempt to deal with the pain of his parents divorce) and the parents have the nerve to blame the state for their son's problems.
1 posted on 11/17/2004 10:35:45 AM PST by Tamar1973
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"It's a funny thing with creativity," ... "There are a lot of people who are unbalanced who have it all.

Yes, we noticed that during the election.

2 posted on 11/17/2004 10:40:15 AM PST by wizardoz (straight, sedentary, and average)
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He sounds more like an drug-addicted asshole than someone who is actually schizophrenic.


3 posted on 11/17/2004 10:40:49 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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a talented artist whose genius disintegrated in the face of mental illness...

...I used to be a genius too...though not exactly sure why mine disintegrated...

I guess it could be the face of mental illness...

4 posted on 11/17/2004 10:40:53 AM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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Yes, of course, it's society's fault! It seems he did more than experiment with drugs, he used them enough to get sent to rehab, with Robert Downey, Jr.

Who puts dangerous, violent psychos in residential neighborhoods? And who moves in across the street from lunatics?

This girl is lucky she's alive.

Everybody else involved with this story should be horsewhipped.


5 posted on 11/17/2004 10:41:43 AM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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There is a very fine line between genius and insanity.
This guy is nuts.


6 posted on 11/17/2004 10:41:48 AM PST by netmilsmom (Zell on DEM Christianity, "They can hum the tune, but can't sing the song.")
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Schwartz started collecting disability checks and bounced from group homes to residential treatment centers to hospitals. In seven years, he had been admitted to 42 different institutions, mostly in Los Angeles, his father said.

Thank goodness for the erstwhile taxpayer, who foots the bill.

7 posted on 11/17/2004 10:44:09 AM PST by mountaineer
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Thank goodness for the erstwhile taxpayer, who foots the bill.

If he's convicted of what they accuse him of, it will cost a heck of a lot more than those disability checks.

8 posted on 11/17/2004 10:46:52 AM PST by Tamar1973 (Bush received 51% of the popular vote, more than Bill Clinton ever did. SO THERE!)
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who moves in across the street from lunatics?

I think it's probably more likely that the group-home moved in across the street from the girl's family, not vice versa.

9 posted on 11/17/2004 10:48:29 AM PST by EggsAckley
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"Yes, at first, Josh made representational art that its viewers could understand and appreciate. As he sank deeper and deeper into drug abuse and mental illness, his work became more and more abstract. Finally, he lost it totally and began doing bizarre things, like putting a crucifix in a jar of urine. We are hopeful that, with the whole kidnapping/stabbing conceptual art happening, he has a pretty good chance of getting an NEA grant."


10 posted on 11/17/2004 10:49:52 AM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Inanity is the Mother of Convention")
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What or where is SR?


11 posted on 11/17/2004 10:52:05 AM PST by Petronski (Okay, so today I *am* cranky.)
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Oh, come on. I'm a product of divorce and so are my three sisters. None of us are drug addicts and we're all normal, functioning adults.

Two of my brothers-in-law are addicts. One is a drug addict and the other is an alcoholic. My husband's parents were married for 40 years.


12 posted on 11/17/2004 10:52:33 AM PST by SilentServiceCPOWife (In the smiling twilight of the new political morning, the unwashed told their betters to shove it.)
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"Carol Schwartz said either outcome would be the result of a failure of the mental health system. "

How about the result of your failure as a parent to teach him to stay off of drugs? Or of the liberal culture that exhorts the use of chemicals and sexual experimentation to seek elightenment and expanded consiousness.


F**ksakes! This kind of thing really gets my goat, ya know?

Haha! Wow, this story really pissed me off. I am somewhat bemused at the effect this had on me. Must be the fact that the man is a violent sexual predator and they don't want to look that in the face and admit it.


13 posted on 11/17/2004 10:57:34 AM PST by osboy
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This nut's problem is very common, just a tad more obvious than the rest
(Looking for that list of Bush Bashing "artists"...)
14 posted on 11/17/2004 10:57:41 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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"And who moves in across the street from lunatics?"

In all fairness, it's likely that the family lived in the neighorhood before the group home came to be there. Group homes by definition are in residential neighborhoods.


15 posted on 11/17/2004 10:59:07 AM PST by osboy
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I was certainly reassured to know that this disaster in the making was once considered a genius - That explains and pardons all after that point since society obviously failed to appreciate this genius and left him no other recourse than to do drugs and abduct 9 year olds. Of course his father, a drug rehab specialist (Whatever that is and one hell of a commentary one his skills in this profession) bears no responsibility nor do his parents who divorced.

M Moore will no doubt follow the same trajectory - Minus the genius thing.
16 posted on 11/17/2004 11:00:08 AM PST by drt1
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What or where is SR?

SR stands for Santa Rosa. It's in Sonoma County, California, grow the best wine and export the nuttiest liberals to Washington DC. (I just wish we could export more of them to New Zealand, Canada, Belarus, etc. Ivory Coast maybe?)

17 posted on 11/17/2004 11:21:58 AM PST by Tamar1973 (Bush received 51% of the popular vote, more than Bill Clinton ever did. SO THERE!)
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There are a lot of people who are unbalanced who have it all.

If they are unbalanced, they don't have it all. In particular, they don't have balance.

18 posted on 11/17/2004 12:22:07 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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It is common for young adults beginning the slide into schizophrenia to "self-medicate" through drug abuse in an attempt to smooth the feelings of unease and disjointedness.

Problem is, when you have a brain chemical disorder, using brain altering drugs is bad juju.

It's a chicken/egg question. Was the schizophrenic break caused by drug abuse or did the schizophrenic start to abuse drugs.

Regardless, he's dangerous, trank him and lock him up.


19 posted on 11/17/2004 1:22:24 PM PST by Valpal1 (The constitution is going to be amended, the only question is by whom?)
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To: Tamar1973

I think that we have a future Democrat nominee for President here. Or at least a Senator.


20 posted on 11/17/2004 1:26:04 PM PST by sport
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