Congressmen urge Bush to drop guest-worker plan

The Washington Times ^ | November 17, 2004 | Jerry Seper

[Ron H.]

And I can think of one moronic pro-illegal race-baiting sycophant on FR (who's wisely staying away from this thread) who's been claiming much the same thing of late.

Absent as in very conspicuously absent!

[Luis Gonzalez]

"And I can think of one moronic pro-illegal race-baiting sycophant on FR (who's wisely staying away from this thread) who's been claiming much the same thing of late."

Let me guess..when the flames start to fly, you'll be the first one pushing the abuse button.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"It is our hope that in future discussions with the Mexican government, you will encourage Mexico to do its part to address illegal immigration rather than encourage their citizens to illegally enter the U.S."

I don't get it.

How does a plan that would give Mexican workers the opportunity and the tools to enter the country legally to work, be perceived by this guy as something that would encourage mexicans to "illegally enter the U.S.?"

[usadave]

C'mon. Like I said, Americans NOWADAYS. Sorry, but the Americans of today are not the hardworking, toiling Americans of yesteryear. No matter how broke someone is, they're not going to work at McDonald's or pick soybeans for $5.75 an hour. That's just how some people are.

I think you're painting with a pretty broad brush there. I personally know of several teenagers (the children of friends and neighbors) who work at fast food restaurants and at other jobs that pay minimum wage. As far as picking produce goes, most of that work is seasonal which requires a person to change jobs every 3-5 months and usually entails traveling from one part of the state to another (or even to neighboring states) to follow the crop harvesting season. Most Americans tend to like putting down roots in one place and have a full-time job year round.

[usadave]

And I can think of one moronic pro-illegal race-baiting sycophant on FR (who's wisely staying away from this thread) who's been claiming much the same thing of late.

By any chance, does this person's FReeper name start with a 'b' and end with a 'd'?

[1_Inch_Group]

This man (Rep. Elton Gallegly) is getting a well deserved pat on the back from me for standing up for my rights as a citizen.

Congressmen Ed Royce is getting one too. Maybe I'll torment that P.O.S. Sanchez again...she's actually my new district.

Just a reminder to those who skip thru these articles without doing anything.

Your representatives will continue to stand up for your rights and your children...but you've got to let them know you have their backs. If there are people standing behind their efforts, opposing the Invader demonstrations, we can't lose.

If the only email messages I opened were negative, I wouldn't open them as much. Let's pass on a few "atta-boys"

Enough preaching, you guys are smart....or you wouldn't be here.
Here's the link, it's in my favorites.
http://www.house.gov/writerep/

[1_Inch_Group]

They won't have to leave. They'll have 3 years to pump out some more faulty DNA and make replicants.

3 years...that's 4 babies.

Then, once the first one is 18, he can sponsor his entire family.

[1_Inch_Group]

You guys are driving me to drink.

Just when I've thought I'd seen it all. You had to go and break out the van seat picture.

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[radicalamericannationalist]

Untrue. In the debates, both Kerry and Bush acknowledged that for every one illegal caught at the border, 3-4 get through.

[radicalamericannationalist]

"Even if they need a job badly they'll still scowl and say they're not doing THAT job."

1. They wil pass up those jobs at a Third World wage scale. If we flooded the market with Indian and Chinese attorneys, thereby driving wages down, there would be less people willing to do the job. But that is a maeket distortion because of the fact that there is simply an unimaginably huge labor pool in the Third World. We are dragging our wages down.

2. "Most of these positions have been filled by Hispanic workers for years, even ones who came here legally in the 60s and 70s but have now moved up the economic ladder."

Please clarify. Are you saying that Hispanics who legally crossed the border and became citizens are not Americans?

[radicalamericannationalist]

You realize that Eisenhower focused on deportation, no amnesty, right?

[radicalamericannationalist]

"If you owned a business your primary objective is to make a profit. Ergo, you're going to duck our massive tax laws and regulations and hire illegals under the table."

So breaking the law is okay, so long as your goal is to make a profit? Tell me, when someone decides that the cost of cars is too high because of regulations and just steals yours, will you be so sanguine?

[radicalamericannationalist]

Yes, I know. Allowing folks who cut in line to keep their places rather than going home and filing like those poor schmucks who actually respected American law is not amnesty. Because its called a guest worker program. See, it's not called amnesty, so even though it meets the definition of amnesty, it can't be called amnesty. Sure.

[radicalamericannationalist]

Well, that's why we need to stop treating free trade as if it were a revealed Biblical truth instead of an economic theory developed for the realities of the 18th century.

[Cultural Jihad]

Please clarify. Are you saying that Hispanics who legally crossed the border and became citizens are not Americans?

All Hispanics are Americans, since they reside on the continents of the Western Hemisphere.

[CWOJackson]

I think I finally figured it out: Jews, Hispanics and Walmart.

[radicalamericannationalist]

Perhaps because after Bush first floated this proposal, Border Patrol agents reported a fourfold jump in illegal crossings. Those facts are pesky things.

[brianl703]

If I wasn't watching my property taxes go up by $50/month every year so as to pay for the increased demand on schools that illegals cause, I too would find this pro-illegal crapola quite comical.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Four fold?

Fast and loose with the "facts", aren't you?

Maybe, if I keep on looking, I'll actually find a reliable source.

Maybe you didn't know the difference between a 10-15% increase in attempted uses of false IDs to cross into the country at the San Ysidro point, and a "fourfold jump in illegal crossings"...is that it?

Or were you lying?

[brianl703]

So what you're saying, in a roundabout way, is that we need an unambiguous term to refer to US citizens and "Americans" isn't it.