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Adoption of Russian children is profitable business
Russia Journal ^ | November 16, 2004

Posted on 11/17/2004 4:49:06 AM PST by jb6

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1 posted on 11/17/2004 4:49:06 AM PST by jb6
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To: Artist
Thanks again for the great advice that I "don't need a husband to adopt," Artist.

If ever I have the money or the ability to indebt myself so as to purchase one of these pricey foreign kids, maybe I'll take you up on that.

I'll need probably twice as much as you though, because I'd probably me more inclined to adopt a truly Unwanted child and -- AS YOU KNOW -- the State only hands out $10,000 tax cuts to Shoppers who wisely choose Foreign or suitably Perfect American kids.

No tax cuts for adopting "special needs" kids.

Though it doesn't require anything so important as a Father for the child, the State does have Certain standards to keep where selectively encouraging the placing of More Perfect Children from profiteers is concerned.
2 posted on 11/17/2004 5:30:34 AM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: jb6

Adoption (especially foreign) has turned into quite a racket.


3 posted on 11/17/2004 6:12:15 AM PST by conservative cat
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Thanks again for the great advice that I "don't need a husband to adopt," Artist.

You're welcome. Since single parent adoption is legal in all 50 states, you're good to go. The first step is to stop lying to yourself.

Actually, Askel, you've creeped me out enough that I'm going to stop trying to convince you that adoption's for you. I hope you don't do it, and since I have no interest in meeting you at your level in the rest of this discussion, I'll leave you to your keyboard.

For anyone else that might click on this thread, and is interested in adoption, please FReepmail me. Askel doesn't have a clue what she's talking about regarding costs and requirements to adopt.

4 posted on 11/17/2004 6:56:38 AM PST by Artist
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=== Since single parent adoption is legal in all 50 states,


I'll be damned. So is abortion! That'll come in handy should I end up getting pregnant after all and find myself saddled with a Defective whose name the government will want for their Database. After all, who in their right mind wants to have (or adopt) a kid with "strings" who might be a hassle?


=== The first step is to stop lying to yourself.

That fathers are critical? That's the Big Lie under which I'm operating? The fact it's not my "right" to have a kid with or without a father?


=== Askel doesn't have a clue what she's talking about regarding costs and requirements to adopt.

Please don't give the impression that this wholly unsubstantiated statement applies to the FACT the government's only giving out tax breaks to those who adopt Foreign or other than "Special Needs" kids.

It's critically important that the same state who gifted you the right to prevent, procure or abort children as you see fit has certain Standards it applies when using tax credits to encourage one form of adoption over another.


5 posted on 11/17/2004 7:02:09 AM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: jb6

Hasnt American adoption of Russian children been halted? I have a friend who is in the process of adopting a child from China and she showed me the sheet of countries where adoptions were accepted by the US. Russia was one of them.


6 posted on 11/17/2004 7:04:17 AM PST by Alkhin ("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a woman! We are doomed!" - - Jack Aubrey, M&C series)
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Since single parent adoption is legal in all 50 states,

Typical of today's society, having or getting a child for their OWN gain, not the childs. Civilization is based upon a father AND a mother. That is why God made each sex unique and different. You can not stop lying to yourself.

7 posted on 11/17/2004 7:08:37 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of an 11 month old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: Askel5
I'd probably me more inclined to adopt a truly Unwanted child and -- AS YOU KNOW -- the State only hands out $10,000 tax cuts to Shoppers who wisely choose Foreign or suitably Perfect American kids.

God Bless your convictions.

No tax cuts for adopting "special needs" kids.

Of course not, in the eyes of the state, this will cost them money. How do I know this, just check my tag line. They are cutting services or totally elimintating them so we can have new bike paths, etc. Special needs to the state means special shafting.

8 posted on 11/17/2004 7:12:26 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of an 11 month old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: MarMema

bump


9 posted on 11/17/2004 7:18:29 AM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: New Perspective
"pical of today's society, having or getting a child for their OWN gain, not the childs. Civilization is based upon a father AND a mother. That is why God made each sex unique and different. You can not stop lying to yourself."

It is best for a child to have a mother and father, but it also better to have a mother than no parent at all. While you don't see widows with children much anymore, it used be a common occurance. Those women raised their children alone and did the best they could.

Preach all you want. Children suffer without any parents while you do.

10 posted on 11/17/2004 7:35:35 AM PST by Artist
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To: New Perspective
"pical of today's society, having or getting a child for their OWN gain, not the childs. Civilization is based upon a father AND a mother. That is why God made each sex unique and different. You can not stop lying to yourself."

It is best for a child to have a mother and father, but it also better to have a mother than no parent at all. While you don't see widows with children much anymore, it used be a common occurance. Those women raised their children alone and did the best they could.

Preach all you want, but orphaned children suffer without any parents while you judge.

11 posted on 11/17/2004 7:39:40 AM PST by Artist
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To: New Perspective

Sorry for the double post. I thought the first one got lost.


12 posted on 11/17/2004 7:41:31 AM PST by Artist
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While you don't see widows with children much anymore, it used be a common occurance. Those women raised their children alone and did the best they could.

Your argument is flawed. They did not choose to be widows, but your mom is CHOOSING to be single. A child needs two parents, a mother and father. Not a gay couple either.

But if the choice is no mom or just a mom, I would prefer a child with a mom. But you must still ask yourself, is she doing it for her own benefit or the childs.

13 posted on 11/17/2004 7:42:28 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of an 11 month old son with Down Syndrome)
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Have you adopted any children? Have you visited any orphanages abroad? Have you seen "The Dying Rooms?"

Get back to me when you've educated yourself more. Then see if you can tell me that a child is better off starving to death alone in a room than being adopted by one parent.

14 posted on 11/17/2004 7:54:34 AM PST by Artist
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Have you adopted any children?

Actually we have looked into foreign adoption, then we had our son. So your wrong there.

Get back to me when you've educated yourself more.

We have several friends who have adopted from all over the world, so your wrong again.

Then see if you can tell me that a child is better off starving to death alone in a room than being adopted by one parent.

Obviously you did not read my previous post in which I said

"But if the choice is no mom or just a mom, I would prefer a child with a mom. But you must still ask yourself, is she doing it for her own benefit or the childs."

15 posted on 11/17/2004 8:00:41 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of an 11 month old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: Askel5

This is bizarre. It's more expensive to adopt a child in Russia than it is to go through this country social services?


16 posted on 11/17/2004 8:04:47 AM PST by cyborg
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To: New Perspective

Every child is a wanted child. I do believe the government beauracracy can be its own worst enemy.


17 posted on 11/17/2004 8:07:15 AM PST by cyborg
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To: New Perspective
"Actually we have looked into foreign adoption, then we had our son. So your wrong there."

"Looked into" is not doing, so you haven't adopted a child.

I'm sure the "several friends" you speak of are married couples. I don't think a single mom would feel very welcome around you.

If you think a single woman is only adopting for selfish reasons, I don't even know where to start, so I won't.

See ya.

18 posted on 11/17/2004 8:09:00 AM PST by Artist
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No tax cuts for adopting "special needs" kids.

I don't know where you get your lies. We took a larger tax cut, much larger actually, for our third Russian adoption in 1997, for a special needs child.

19 posted on 11/17/2004 9:00:12 AM PST by MarMema (Sharon is my hero)
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To: Artist
Askel doesn't have a clue what she's talking about regarding costs and requirements to adopt.

Thanks, and I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your post as well.

20 posted on 11/17/2004 9:01:07 AM PST by MarMema (Sharon is my hero)
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