The ACLU wins one against the Boy Scouts

Indianapolis Star ^ | 11/16/2004 | MIKE ROBINSON AP

[TheBattman]

Where is GW on this? This needs to be on his agenda to take care of.

[bear11]

The AC'PU' will only make the Boy Scouts stronger and more popular.

[Diogenesis]

The ACLU wants all scouts to have an Islam Celebration and Sensitivity Day, too.

[GOP_Proud]

Another example of what the blue states don't get about the red states.

[Time is now]

That's why Arlen Sphincter is the wrong choice for the Judiciary Committee.

[Gibtx]

their job is to destroy the USA ...... and they are in league with the communist and socialist to do it.....

[fredhead]

Another example of the Communist ACLU trying to destroy anything that teaches our children the correct values.

[atomicweeder]

After the blue states secede, let's make sure there is no ACLU in the red states.

[azhenfud]

May we who are Christians demand our government not engage itself in official sponsorship of THEIR agendas?

If "our" government can neither sponsor (represent) the will of the majority nor sponsor (represent) the dictates of a minority, what good is government altogether but to collect and spent tax monies?

[4woodenboats]

This, of course, is the same ACLU that had to return over $1 million in grants to the government because they refused to promise they wouldn't hire anyone that was on a terrorist watch list.

[Noachian]

Homosexuals are attracted to any and all male dominated organizations.

The Boy Scouts, like the Catholic priests, will be inundated with homosexuals if the ACLU has its way. It will surely end the Boy Scouts as we know it.

The ACLU must know this, so why do they keep at it?

[odoso]

The FREAKS aided by the anti-American, anti-liberty ACLU have gone to far this time... Something has got to be done!

[caddie]

The irony here is great, because the nation's premier 'military base', West Point, sponsors Boy Scout Troop #1, for the sons of the officers and enlisted who run the USMA. Has done so for the better part of 100 years.

I discovered this on a trip to the USMA. You can go to the museum near the Visitor's Center, and they have a display case showing the easily-recognizable BSA khaki uniform with the Troop number, a single "1", on the deltoid. Very impressive.

[BTW this was maybe the best vacation I ever had, taking my eighth-grade son out to the USMA on a football weekend (Air Force won) in the fall two years ago. The prettiest campus on earth, and the whole school is more suffused with an atmosphere of morality and love of God than even a 'religious' university such as Notre Dame. FReepers especially will love this place.]

Back to the real world: This ACLU action is disgraceful, showing how the gays have no perspective, and no sense of fair play. Only seeking to satisfy themselves. They have no business being around scouts for that reason alone, never mind the perverted stuff.

The homos can not win this battle. Support your local BSA troop and district.

[UsnDadof8]

A Scout Is Reverent.

If the ACLU thinks they can take down the BSA, they are sadly mistaken. Churches ought to be the main sponsors of scouting, anyway. My boys are Cub Scouts (one will be a Boy Scout in 2 yrs) and our HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL troop is sponsored by a presbyterian church.

[cvq3842]

I don't know what the practice is regarding "sponsorship" of Boy Scouts or other groups by government bases. Just giving this a quick legal analysis, though, I would argue that forbidding the government to sponsor groups with a "religious" component, but sponsoring other groups without such a "religious" dimension, is clearly a discrimination AGAINST religion. (Just like Bush's faith-based initiative: my understanding is that Bush is seeking to "level the playing field" by allowing ALL groups, religious as well as secular, to receive government funds for their "charitable" work.) The danger of discrimination against the religious is much, much greater than any danger of a government "establishment" of religion. I thought the ACLU was in the business it's in to prevent discrimination against persons based on their beliefs.

On a personal level, of course, I am disgusted beyond words - or rather beyond words which I am allowed to use on this site.

Hey, if the ACLU wants a fat, juicy target for a government "establishment" of religion, I've got one. A federal holiday, signed into law by Ronald Reagan, named for an American citizen (Columbus was not an "American," and there's no longer a "Washington's Birthday" holiday, merely "Presidents' Day.") This holiday commemorates a CHRISTIAN MINISTER who used the moral authority of his religion to bring fundamental changes to American society. Oh my! Religious groups influencing the government! Isn't that what the liberals are afraid of?

So why is the ACLU not stampeding, immediately, to get rid of Martin Luther King Day?

Don't get me wrong, please. I think we SHOULD commemorate Dr. King. Without going into detail, I think at his best moments he exemplified some of the best qualities of "the American spirit." He gave his life rather than give in to violence or hate. (Wouldn't politics be transformed if we judged people on their BEST moments at least as much as we did based on their worst ones?) Dr. King's legacy is not my point.

But his actions didn't take place in a vacuum. Again, the term "moral authority" comes to mind.

So, if the ACLU sees the "danger" in a base sponsoring a Boy Scout troop, why do they not consider this holiday an impermissible establishment of religion?

My point is the absolute hypocrisy of the ACLU. If you hate Christianity, be up front about it. Don't hide behind legal principles that you don't even follow.

But the more they pull these stunts, the more the US turns red. Literally and figuratively.

If anyone has examples of the ACLU defending Christians I'd love to hear about it.

[airborne]

The ACLU wants all scouts to have an Islam Celebration and Sensitivity Day, too.

New merit badges -

Killing infidels

Bomb making

Raping

Beheading

Airborne to all members of ACLU - "DROP DEAD"

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Very well stated.
Thank you