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TEXAS! Press Release of "Corridor Watch" Re. Trans-Texas Corridor & Toll Roads
Corridor Watch ^ | 11. 15. 2004 | David Stall

Posted on 11/15/2004 1:43:30 PM PST by MarshallDillon

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Texans, be aware of HB3588 and what it will do to property owners. The loss of land to state control will take property off the tax rolls, and place our highways under the authority of corporations with many ill consequenses.
1 posted on 11/15/2004 1:43:31 PM PST by MarshallDillon
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To: MarshallDillon

Yep. We moved out to the country 8 years ago and fixed up our little farm. Now we find out the TTC may be going up either through or close by our property. What the state would pay us for our home would not come close to what we have put into it in $$$ and hard work. Our community fought against Texas Utilities when they wanted to put up the unsightly high voltage towers and we lost. We also fought against the huge landfill that the county wanted to build and we lost that one too. It's a shame that all the beautiful countryside is disappearing. I guess that's what you call progress.


2 posted on 11/15/2004 1:54:02 PM PST by toomanygrasshoppers ("Hold on to your hats.....it's going to be a bumpy night")
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To: MarshallDillon
Bump fer commments
3 posted on 11/15/2004 1:56:57 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: MarshallDillon

If there was another way to pay for it, I be for removing tolls from my section of Dallas county of the 190 Tollway...Is that what they are proposing ?


4 posted on 11/15/2004 1:58:13 PM PST by Texans
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To: MarshallDillon

I respectfully diagree. As a Texan and property owner, I support the Trans-Texas program and its goals. Many of the same arguments its opponents are making were made against the proposed Interstate Highway System in the 1950s, but few today would argue that the Interstates have been bad for the nation overall.


5 posted on 11/15/2004 2:08:00 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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...Is that what they are proposing?

No. The stop121tolls organization and others are fighting the conversion of existing state highways into toll roads. The gamut of state organizations, taxpayers, ocnservatives, libverals etc. are fighting many aspects of HB3588 -primarily toll road conversions, but also the "Trans Texas Corridor". It will take people across the state writing directly to their state representatives, and organizzing high-profile campaigns in order to get this done. I am a longtime conservative. This is not a "no growth" bunch of people at all. It is a bunch of Americans inspired to protect property, our way of life, and our schools, etc. Go to the websites at "MarshallDillon" -about- page.

6 posted on 11/15/2004 2:13:14 PM PST by MarshallDillon (<<<Clickhere to RECALL Austin Mayor WILL WYNN -(a double-taxer).)
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One view of the Trans-Texas Corridor

Looks kinda cool, doesn't it?

7 posted on 11/15/2004 2:21:26 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: Jonx6

Hide yer wallet ping.


8 posted on 11/15/2004 2:27:51 PM PST by TXFireman
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To: toomanygrasshoppers
Your comments inspired me to look up the Priority Trans-Texas Corridor map. I thought it was going to follow the existing US 59 route through the northeast part of the State -- but, according to this TXDOT map, the darn thing is going through the eastern part of Cass County.

That puts it right on top of my 65 acres of Piney Woods!

Tomorrow, I'm headed to the TXDOT regional office in Atlanta to get detailed Cass County maps of the proposed Corridor... This may mean WAR!!!

9 posted on 11/15/2004 2:57:04 PM PST by TXnMA (Although I miss the calamari, I'm still glad to be back home in God's Country!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It looks like a bill of goods hidden in a shell game. The premise of a 200 MPH Magev train works only on perfectly-flat topography - and they want us to beleive it will go across Texas ... It also looks like double-taxation deluxe.


10 posted on 11/15/2004 2:57:41 PM PST by MarshallDillon (<<<Clickhere to RECALL Austin Mayor WILL WYNN -(a double-taxer).)
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To: MarshallDillon

I thought we had a Republican controlled senate in Austin.


11 posted on 11/15/2004 3:00:52 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

12 posted on 11/15/2004 3:09:43 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Arlen Specter's got to go!)
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To: toomanygrasshoppers
Wouldn't easier access to your land make it more valuable?
13 posted on 11/15/2004 3:23:59 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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Save Our Springs (Austin) Sierra Club (statewide)

Sounds like a bunch of liberals.

14 posted on 11/15/2004 5:06:59 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Some of them may be liberals. Some are conservatives.

WE WILL ALL PAY THROUGH THE NOSE.

This is a very AMERICAN issue statewide when they start seizing property -over 1 million acres- which will no longer be on each county's tax rolls etc.


15 posted on 11/15/2004 6:07:32 PM PST by MarshallDillon (<<<Clickhere to RECALL Austin Mayor WILL WYNN -(a double-taxer).)
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

Please writ to each of your state representatives and tell them to amend HB3588, prohibit conversion of state highways to toll roads, and stop the Trans-Texas Corridor project.


16 posted on 11/15/2004 6:44:35 PM PST by MarshallDillon (<<<Clickhere to RECALL Austin Mayor WILL WYNN -(a double-taxer).)
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To: B-Chan

I respect your opinion, but how do you feel about the aspects of HB3588 which convert existing and paid-for state highways into toll roads? Is it not double taxaxtion? I think so.

One should read deeply into the HB3588. The goals touted by TxDOT hide many consequences.


17 posted on 11/15/2004 6:48:07 PM PST by MarshallDillon (<<<Clickhere to RECALL Austin Mayor WILL WYNN -(a double-taxer).)
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If there was another way to pay for it

Like getting rid of thieving politicians to start with...

18 posted on 11/15/2004 6:49:55 PM PST by ChefKeith (Life is GREAT with CoCo..........NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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To: ChefKeith

Austin Toll Party ~like the Boston Tea Party
http://www.austintollparty.com

RECALL CAMPO members: Austin Mayor Will Wynn, Councilmen McCracken and Thomas
Recall Petition http://www.austintollparty.com/recall.pdf

Texas Dept. of Transportation http://www.dot.state.tx.us/aus/

Regional Mobility Authority http://www.campotexas.org

Corridor Watch: http://www.corridorwatch.org

Excellent Power Point presentation: http://www.firericwilliamson.com/

Dallas Area: http://www.stop121tolls.com

Houston: http://www.houstontollparty.com


19 posted on 11/15/2004 6:54:43 PM PST by MarshallDillon (<<<Clickhere to RECALL Austin Mayor WILL WYNN -(a double-taxer).)
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To: MarshallDillon

In my opinion, no. There are only a few sources of funding for public highways: public revenues (sales taxes, excise taxes on fuel, oil, etc., bond issues, license fees, and so forth) and direct per-use user fees (tolls). Tolls are not taxes, since they are voluntary — one can always choose to drive on alternate, non-toll roads.

As far as turning already-built highways into toll roads goes, I don't belive that any such thing as a "paid for" highway exists, since even a long-completed toll route like the D/FW Turnpike (now I-30) between Dallas and Fort Worth needs constant upkeep and repair. User fees are common with other "paid for" public infrastructure — D/FW airport was "paid for" out of tax dollars, yet to this day charges every passenger a toll every time their flight takes off or lands (and of course a toll for simply driving on to airport property). Double taxation?

I admit that I don't know a great deal about this issue in terms of numbers, but I do know that I like the Big Picture: an intrastate highway system with dedicated truck lanes and (at last!) an intercity high-speed rail system worthy of the name. If U.S. history is any guide, the economic side-effects of building the Trans-Texas network will do for our state what the building of the Interstate System did for the USA as a whole.


20 posted on 11/15/2004 10:19:20 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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