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1 posted on 11/14/2004 6:46:35 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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Where would we be if socialism was successful somewhere?


2 posted on 11/14/2004 6:56:19 AM PST by The Raven
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"I have been a Communist all my life, but now I've seen the realities of Communism, and it is a failure--mismanagement, corruption, privilege, repression. My ideals are gone."

Typical idealist. Millions of innocent people have to die and suffer before he gets to luxuriate in his disillusionment.

About a week into my first year at college I walked into the cafeteria to be regaled by a loud chorus of "take the eggs!" coming from the people who had gotten there ahead of me. The cafeteria was offering a choice between pancakes with bacon and sausage or scrambled eggs with bacon or sausage. The eggs didn't look very good, but the pancakes looked light, fluffy and golden brown. So naturally everybody, disdaining the advice, took the pancakes--myself included. It wasn't until I was seated and had taken the first bite that I realized my mistake--the damned things not only tasted abominable, but were heavy as lead to boot. There was nothing to do but join in the chorus of "take the eggs!" until the last pancake had been served and the last dupe taken his place amongst the swollen ranks of the disillusioned.

4 posted on 11/14/2004 6:59:38 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Perhaps Jane Fonda could fly over and cheer the Vietnamese Communists up!


6 posted on 11/14/2004 7:07:37 AM PST by trek
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And insight into the yield of "real" Communism, another case history (human nature at work!). Ah, the ideals of youth and those who never grow up!


7 posted on 11/14/2004 7:12:09 AM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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"I have been a Communist all my life, but now I've seen the realities of Communism, and it is a failure--mismanagement, corruption, privilege, repression. My ideals are gone."

If we could just once hear such clarity of thought from a leading Democrat - it might signal a revival within that party. Of course, we would probably have to let the Democrats completely trash our country before some of them would wake up. Fortunately for us, Ronnie Reagan wasn't going to let them do any more damage than they already had by 1980.

9 posted on 11/14/2004 7:15:05 AM PST by ghost of nixon
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Well, duuuuuh! We were telling that to them in the late 50s all through the 60s but did Kerry or Fondue get it? Nooooo! They all said we were dumb now. Who's the dumb Peace now?
10 posted on 11/14/2004 7:18:39 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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an alarming deterioration of traditional ethical, moral and spiritual values (and) confusion among the youth on whom the country's future depends.

One of the symptoms of the communist infestation. Necessary if the New Social Order is to evolve. Chaos and misery are communism's handmaidens.

14 posted on 11/14/2004 7:25:23 AM PST by IronJack (R)
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Screw 'em. They got what the deserve.


15 posted on 11/14/2004 7:28:42 AM PST by Pittsburg Phil
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A free market is what occurs naturally when people are free. Communism, socialism, and Marxism always have to be imposed, people always have to die, and the people who impose it on others never have to live in squalor like their subjects. Socialism, and its various offshoots are evil.


17 posted on 11/14/2004 7:32:50 AM PST by Casloy
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Give communism some credit...it protects the proletariat from being taken advantage of by the evil capitalists, and keeps them from outsourcing their jobs to other nations.

/sarcasm


18 posted on 11/14/2004 7:37:25 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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Vietnam will turn if WE win the war on terror.

A big IF!

21 posted on 11/14/2004 7:50:52 AM PST by onedoug
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These facts have become so clear and brutal that even many of the Communist Party's most ardent supporters are admitting that they have failed.

Except John Kerry....

25 posted on 11/14/2004 8:11:53 AM PST by John Thornton ("Appeasers always hope that the crocodile will eat them last." Winston Churchill)
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The failure of communism in Vietnam by Prince Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh

I had no idea there was still a Vietnamese royal family nor did I know they were issuing press releases from Aurora, Illinois.  I thought that after the emperor Bao Dai abdicated and left Vietnam for France that was the end of them.  Check out this November 10th press release:

H.I.H. Prince Regent Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh of Vietnam, Regent of the Imperial Nguyen Dynasty & President of The Vietnamese Constitutional Monarchist League

His Imperial Highness Prince Regent Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh of Vietnam was forced to leave Vietnam and was exiled after 1975, has been living in the United States and is The Regent of the Imperial Nguyen Dynasty Overseas Council and The President of the Vietnamese Constitutional Monarchist League that is attempting to peacefully form a democratic government in Vietnam.

(PRWEB) November 10, 2004 -- OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS

From the Office of the Leadership of the Nguyen Imperial Dynasty of Vietnam: http://users.panola.com/vietnam

I. Announcement to the People of Vietnam:
The Imperial Nguyen Dynasty is leading a vigorous and persistent struggle against the Communist Regime. We are utilizing only peaceful methods in this struggle, using political and diplomatic measures, such as: Contacting and canvassing World Leaders and International Organizations, United Nations, etc, to stand behind our noble cause and support us in restoring the Nation and traditional constitutional Monarchy. We will absolutely never condone the use of violence in any form to defeat the enemy.

We uphold the concept that the Communist Vietnamese share with us the same origins and the same Ancestors. We will never take revenge on them, but consider them to be misguided brothers of our same ethnic blood and national origin.

After eliminating the Communist Regime, we want the awakened and liberated Communist Vietnamese to cooperate with us in common brotherhood to rebuild and embellish the country.

From the Office of the Leadership of the Nguyen Imperial Dynasty of Vietnam:

II. Announcement to Political Parties, Societies, Associations, Fronts, Movements etc:
The Imperial Nguyen Dynasty of Vietnam firmly declares that we appreciate and respect all the leaders of the nationalist political parties, movements, fronts and associations etc, united in common cause against the Communists. We stand alongside them in mutual support to advance the same cause. We are committed to never discriminate against or underestimate any of them.

We have always been going together on the same Road of Struggle and must help each other to restore the Nation and bring liberty and social welfare to the People.

We absolutely are determined to never cause problems and conflicts against each other if they consider us as combatants on the same front.

If you would like to politically pressure the Communist Regime of Hanoi to help the oppressed people of Vietnam, you are welcomed to join His Imperial Highness Prince Regent Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh and become a part of history and fight for human rights, freedom of expression, the freedom of association and the freedom of speech, for Vietnam under the protection of the Nguyen Dynasty of Vietnam.

"When we are not devoted to serve the People, we cannot have the right to ask for the favors from the nation."

H.I.H. Prince Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh of Vietnam
Regent of the Imperial Nguyen Dynasty
President of the Vietnamese Constitutional Monarchist League


P.O. Box 6621
Aurora,IL 60598 USA
Foreign Secretariat: (323) 202-7043

Vietnamese Constitutional Monarchist League: http://users.panola.com/vietnam
 

27 posted on 11/14/2004 8:17:12 AM PST by Racehorse
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Because we crushed the Americans, we thought we could achieve anything.

"We" includes the mothers of all America crushers: the American press and John Kerry. Oh how they loved their Ho -- and to this day. To the rescue they came helping the commies get normal relations -- and a Kerry cousin get lucrative contracts.

30 posted on 11/14/2004 9:42:13 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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BUMP


31 posted on 11/14/2004 9:44:57 AM PST by nickcarraway
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An interesting post, Joe. Thanks.


33 posted on 11/14/2004 10:35:30 AM PST by jimt
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"It should be clear to any realistic observer of politics in Indochina that the Communist Party and the Socialist Republic have failed Vietnam and the Vietnamese people in a dramatic way."

They obviously need Jane Fonda to go over there and help them "pray" more. (/sarc.)

37 posted on 11/14/2004 12:24:03 PM PST by nightdriver
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"Because we crushed the Americans, we thought we could achieve anything."

Yeah, well, they had a lot of help from the democRATs, the American media and other fifth columnists here in America.

Vietnam was one war that our soldiers were never allowed to fight.

39 posted on 11/15/2004 4:17:41 PM PST by nightdriver
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The failure of communism is because it can only work with nice people. The world is not nice. People are selfish, family obsessed, and with a host of other faults. They need a system like capitalism that fits these features. Competition, money, and winner takes all fit the evil world quite well. That’s why it works. It’s not that communism is wrong it’s that poeple are wrong.


46 posted on 09/21/2013 4:03:24 PM PDT by John Middlemas (People are wrong, not communism.)
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In a similar confession the unrepentant but realistic Dr. Duong Quynh Hoa, a high leader in the VietMinh, told the same author, "I have been a Communist all my life, but now I've seen the realities of Communism, and it is a failure--mismanagement, corruption, privilege, repression. My ideals are gone."

Therefore, we immediately implemented it in America.

SMDH

47 posted on 09/21/2013 4:06:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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