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PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org

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To: Luis Gonzalez

How did you obtain my pic? :)


1,681 posted on 11/14/2004 9:23:49 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
hehehe...
1,682 posted on 11/14/2004 9:25:45 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

LOL!


1,683 posted on 11/14/2004 9:27:47 PM PST by Cold Heat (There is more to do! "Mr. Kerry, about that Navy discharge?")
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To: JeffAtlanta
Doesn't matter - it was still law of the land. An ammendment made that decision moot.

Actually it matters quite a bit. You se the oveririding decision in Scott was that Taney and friends decided that the Constituion forced slavery onto Missouri when Missouri wanted to expand the rights of blacks. Sound familiar?

1,684 posted on 11/14/2004 9:28:35 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: JeffAtlanta
Doesn't matter - it was still law of the land. An ammendment made that decision moot.

Actually it matters quite a bit. You se the oveririding decision in Scott was that Taney and friends decided that the Constituion forced slavery onto Missouri when Missouri wanted to expand the rights of blacks. Sound familiar?

1,685 posted on 11/14/2004 9:29:04 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Gosh, you have recorded me too. It must be via those thingies being put into drugs now by the feds, or so Drudge tell us. God how I love this site, and those like you who make it lovable. LOL.


1,686 posted on 11/14/2004 9:31:08 PM PST by Torie
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To: JeffAtlanta
Trick question. Not at the expense of someone else's.

not a trick question, a simple one and you gave the wrong answer. States are free to expand rights for all, equally, no pig is more equal than the next pig. Simple.

Mom has a right to life and so does Junior, inside the womb or not.

1,687 posted on 11/14/2004 9:31:27 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Yes, I am located just south of those "Show Me" people.

They still have Arkansas mucked up from the Civil war split between the Northern and Southern parts of the state.

We have a yankee section to this day.

1,688 posted on 11/14/2004 9:32:17 PM PST by Cold Heat (There is more to do! "Mr. Kerry, about that Navy discharge?")
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To: Cold Heat
Look it up in the Hebrew.

You seem fairly intelligent, I am sure you can find the Hebrew meaning.

It will be the English equivalent of murder. If it wasn't, I wouldn't have told you it was.

You don't need me to do your research for you.

And BTW, it wasn't "what I determined", it was from proper research.

It has nothing to do with me or you.

1,689 posted on 11/14/2004 9:39:48 PM PST by Syncro
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To: A Jovial Cad; Vicomte13
CAN'T YOU READ!

At the top of the thread, the author is clearly stated. Freeper Vicomte13's name is in the same space that the author's name always appears. To further clarify I addressed the author in the first post, congratulating them on writing a great and IMO necessary article.

Just to be clear, I did not write the article, Freeper Vicomte13 did. Ask Vicomte13 your pressingly urgent question from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1279039/posts?page=1667#1667

"And while we're wrapping things up, let us note that you have yet to address my point: what kind of "Christian" uses language like "Screw us," especially in public for the whole world to see? None that I know of, for sure...but nice try at a dodge."
1,690 posted on 11/14/2004 9:43:57 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: jwalsh07
not a trick question, a simple one and you gave the wrong answer. States are free to expand rights for all, equally, no pig is more equal than the next pig. Simple.

Mom has a right to life and so does Junior, inside the womb or not.

Sure - its simple. Why worry about overturning Roe Vs Wade at all. The states can just extend of Junior. Roe V Wade is moot. Simple...

1,691 posted on 11/14/2004 9:45:39 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

Right, whatever you say.


1,692 posted on 11/14/2004 9:49:56 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Right, whatever you say.

Seriously, why do you want Roe V Wade overturned? According to your previous post, individual states can extend individual freedoms to the unborn. This is what I gathered from your post.

I'm not trying to be a jerk about this. I am only trying to understand your post. :-)
1,693 posted on 11/14/2004 9:53:31 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Syncro
Look man, I appreciate it, but I have issues with these translations. I bought into this once before and got burned.

For example, a word in Hebrew cannot possibly mean the exact same thing as a word coined in English many hundreds or even a couple thousands of years apart.

Although I understand the argument, don't ask me to buy it hook line and sinker. I cannot imagine words like these to be identical in meaning. And close gets you no cigars when dealing with religion.

These translation bots and what not for religious text give you the closest word in English. The precise definition always varies and Hebrew is not the most descriptive of language.

That word may very well mean kill without permission, or without blessings of the elder which is a far cry from murder in the legal sense.

It is this sort of thing that really gets me going. So best to leave it be for this topic.

I am a FReeper! :-)(am am naturally divisive and impossible)And, it is late.

1,694 posted on 11/14/2004 9:57:05 PM PST by Cold Heat (There is more to do! "Mr. Kerry, about that Navy discharge?")
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To: JeffAtlanta
Like Dred Scott, Roe v Wade is a garbage opinion, no matter which side of the political spectrum you stand on. For that reason alone, you should want it overturned. It has no basis in the Constitution and is based on a lie.

Don't believ me, ask Norma McCorvey and any number of liberal legal scholars. Hell, ask Torie.

I personally want it overturned because I believe unborn babies are entitled to the right to life and because courts taking making new law out of whole cloth simply poisons the public square resulting in enmity and culture wars. Inevitably, the animus rises when activist courts make bad law based o their own mores, or sometimes Europes, rather than letting the matters be decided where they should be, in the public square and thorugh our elected representatives.

The mechanism to overtunr bad law is two fold, either through a strong Cngress or by states expanding rights and testing those rights in SCOTUS while moving public opinio away from idiotic opinions like Roe.

Its all happening and sooer or later you'll say, uhhuh.

1,695 posted on 11/14/2004 10:02:26 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: A Jovial Cad
Since you state that you are a Christian, great.
Then you act so offended and self righteous about the phrase "Screw us,"

I must ask, why do you use such unchristian and uncharitable language such as: "LOL...go cry somewhere else, troll loser." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1277986/posts?page=62#62

Or how about this phrase: "What a cesspool of loons. They simply cannot fathom what hit them last Tuesday: the voice & votes of Real America." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1274855/posts?page=79#79 Again, not very charitable! A "real" Christian might say that's not being very Christlike.

"Put the scummy DUmmies on suicide watch! Their moaning and groaning is causing me a great deal of satisfaction this glorious morning..." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1268840/posts?page=25#25 Wonderful, A Jovial Cad, that's real righteous and Christlike


Get off your high horse and stop whining.

I can't believe I just wasted my time on this post.

1,696 posted on 11/14/2004 10:03:28 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org

LOL


1,697 posted on 11/14/2004 10:04:44 PM PST by Syncro
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To: cpforlife.org
I can't beieve you spent that much time proving his point.

So now you can attack me if you like. It seems to make you feel better.

Knock yourself out!

I cuss like a sailor!

1,698 posted on 11/14/2004 10:08:13 PM PST by Cold Heat (There is more to do! "Mr. Kerry, about that Navy discharge?")
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To: JeffAtlanta
why do you want Roe V Wade overturned?

I will tell you why I think why. Because it was unprincipled - an abuse of judicial power - judicial overreach - a manufacturing of one right out of thin air which trumps another, the another being a right with considerably more settled tradition as one which the states had a right to protect as they saw fit. And because it of course has poisoned the public square, poisoned the process of selecting and confirming judicial nominees, deflected us from fairly considering other important issues because we are imprisoned by the judicial overreach, and now are each emblazoned with a scarlet letter on our chest, one way or the other, and thus the decision, Roe v Wade, from a public policy standpoint, has proven a disaster, no matter what you view, or how you cut it. What is so horrible about thrashing this issue out at the ballot box?

What is so noble about the toxic penumbra of this abuse of judicial power, this pall, this traducing of the democratic spirit, and enervating of the American spirit? It's evil, period, in its practical effect. About that, this aging man can bear witness.

1,699 posted on 11/14/2004 10:10:00 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
You forgot the part about all the federalized crimes that have come about since.

Since Roe, the States have lost more than I ever thought possible.

They tried to fix something they saw as broken.

One thing certain, if it is repealed, we will find out if it was indeed broken or not.

1,700 posted on 11/14/2004 10:16:25 PM PST by Cold Heat (There is more to do! "Mr. Kerry, about that Navy discharge?")
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