Posted on 11/10/2004 8:48:04 AM PST by NYer
The Bush rally in Lancaster
"For decades, the roughly 40,000 Amish of Pennsylvania have rarely voted.
When they did, they were overwhelmingly Republicans. Members of a reserved, deeply Christian subculture - still speaking the German dialect of their ancestors who settled in Pennsylvania in the early 1700s - they strive to stay apart from modern society."
Why the Amish are wheeling out the vote
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Argh!! I live in a Blue State and I think this is crap. Bush won because Kerry is a fraud. Kerry is a wimp. Kerry is a flip flopper. Kerry is a stinking socialist.
Bush sticks to the plan. Bush doesn't pander to the Media and the Elites of Europe. Bush puts capitalism and the economy and the safety of our country first.
I am sure that the morality vote played a key issue with many people but to play this as the only single most important reason why he won is delusional.
Am I wrong?
That Italian guy figured out America.
Isn't it odd that liberals who've lived here their entire lives haven't?
No, you are not wrong. There are many reasons Bush won and morality is just one of those reasons. Most of the fence-sitter I know didn't so much vote for Bush as they did against Hollywood and the liberal "elite". There is a great amount of animosity in the South and Midwest against these liberals who constantly refer to us as ignorant racist hicks.
Of course its not the single most important issue. What you must understand is that it is the single issue MOST FOREIGN to the thinking of the "stone-age media" types, and the the denizens of the "blue counties" (I refuse to use the term "blue states", because there are lots of "red" areas on a state-wide basis in any state). Thus those folks single it out ahead of other factors.
I forgot about the so called "artists". What is amazing is how their true colors showed when they lost. It is incredible.
Nope. I believe the same thing. The multitude of issues foisted on the public are all rooted in socialism.
Those issues are the symptoms of a country that was veering onto a Marxist path.
All true; however, there are many in the US who want to grow the socialist agenda and view the Liberals and Democrats, as their transport vehicle. In their eyes, gays are equal to heterosexuals, abortion is no different than an enema and aborted fetuses should be put to good use - giving their stem cells to research in order to keep the Hollyweird folks looking forever young.
There were many factors that contributed to the Bush Victory but "moral issues" predominated. I am a red person residing in a blue county of a blue state. It is an honor and privilege to cast my vote each year for those candidates, buried near the bottom of the ballot, who represent the values I cherish most.
It's just one of the first things that fell out of their spreadsheets as they try to analyze the election. Few of them have actually studied ethics and fewer understand the field of study.
I agree. I am only saying that the media and the libs are just livid and openly hostile because they think the ONLY reason Bush was re-elected was because of these issues.
However one doesn't need to be very religious to see the "Frankenstein" type of science that I feel is taking place with aborted fetuses. I am beginning to think they are using this to justify abortion instead of actually producing real science that saves lives.
I figured Dubya had done okay and voted to keep him another 4 years so we could have a little continuity in our national goals for a while. His revamping of NASA was a big part of my decision and would have been the main reason except that we are at war and don't need to show weakness at this time. I also have some confidence in the depth of Dubya's philosophical reasoning powers, something that wasn't there at all until he presented his stem cell case.
I must agree trashcanbred. I live in what many would consider a very traditional state (Nebraska). Yet my vote for GWB was not based on religion or morality or values. He received my vote first and foremost because of the war on terror. It is the most important issue of our time and I feel that W has proven his leadership qualities in that arena overwhelmingly. That was the same issue that drove all of my friends to vote for him as well. Some of the other factors that drove me to vote again for W.
1. Tax Reform (we need to get rid of the income tax in
order to truly liberate the economy and the people)
2. Kerry (ex hippie socialist wanna be's will not get my
vote. Ever. He talked the talk but his record did not
walk the walk.)
3. The Economy (despite what the impression that the MSM
tried to give, the economy is getting better all the
time. W's economic policy saved us from falling into a
DEEP recession bordering on depression after 9-11.
That alone was worth my vote)
While values certainly are important, they werent what got my vote. The Dems are blaming their loss on evangelical Christians because they can't accept the fact that voters dont buy their BS. That dog don't hunt now and it won't in 4 years. I just hope they keep it up. It would be nice to see Hitlery lose by a landslide in '08
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There is something missing in europe, perhaps they could find it by visiting red America.
Well he certianly has a chance to fix NASA now. I certainly am behind the new approach. This is one of the least mentioned ains of this election. I still mantain that h=if he vision is realized that it will actually be for this that he is most remembered in history. He will have made us the first truly space-faring nation in history.
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