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A Democratic Primer on "The Moral Thing"
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 11/09/04 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 11/09/2004 4:54:19 AM PST by kattracks

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1 posted on 11/09/2004 4:54:19 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

Great!


2 posted on 11/09/2004 4:56:51 AM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: kattracks

Calm, sane and reasoned. Will the Democrats read and understand this?

Many thanks to Mr. Prager for this insightful piece.


3 posted on 11/09/2004 5:00:28 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: kattracks

Amen!!!!!!


4 posted on 11/09/2004 5:01:24 AM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: kattracks

The Guv has been in the sun too long. She doesn't know what her party looks like to the majority of America!


5 posted on 11/09/2004 5:06:17 AM PST by ConservativeGreek
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To: jigsaw
How did a party that is filled with people with values -- and I am a person with values -- get tagged as the party without values?"

They still don't get it. The simple answer is Michael Moore, and hollyweird. End of sentence.

6 posted on 11/09/2004 5:07:24 AM PST by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: kattracks

Brilliant. That about sums it up doesn't it.


7 posted on 11/09/2004 5:07:49 AM PST by bella1 ((red county, blue state))
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To: kattracks

Great Post - Thanks


8 posted on 11/09/2004 5:08:12 AM PST by CGblue
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To: kattracks

At first I thought the democrats had gone insane. As I read and listen to them now, they are proving it.


9 posted on 11/09/2004 5:15:22 AM PST by NetValue (Trust the cobra before you trust the liberal.)
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To: kattracks
"How did a party that is filled with people with values -- and I am a person with values -- get tagged as the party without values?"

Ummmmmmmmm...

1. Abortion of the innocent

2. Homosexuality

3. Violation of the commandment: "Thou Shall NOT covet thy neighbors goods."

I could add about 30 more.

10 posted on 11/09/2004 5:18:39 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: kattracks
Good answer! Good answer! (courtesy Family Feud)
Clear and concise. No gray area. The question though is-
How in the world did John Kerry get 47+ % of the vote?
Would a cardboard cutout have garnered the same result due to the ABB mentality?
11 posted on 11/09/2004 5:20:23 AM PST by kc2theline (4 more years!)
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It's the amorality stoopid!
12 posted on 11/09/2004 5:25:58 AM PST by Wristpin (Bloggers, forget your silly whim. It doesn't fit the plan!!)
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To: kattracks
The real answer, obscured by the fact that conservatives have started using the sociologist/Nietzchian weasel word 'values', is that American want a party committed to moral virtues not 'values'.

'Values' is what sociologists call another society's understanding (or misunderstanding) of virtue. 'Values' can be changed by will or whim: Nietzche wrote of the 'transvaluation of values' and wanted to flip Christian values upside down, to consider charity and self-sacrifice as evil. Multiculturalism and the sort of feminism that blathers about 'women's ways of knowing' don't deny stereotypes, they accept and 'transvalue' them.

We did well this election. But to move decisively toward victory in the culture war, we need to retake the bridge we gave up when we started using 'values' and start forthrightly talking about virtues: the virtue of charity, the virtue of chastity, of humility, of thrift, of self-control, of self-reliance, of temperance, of moderation; of prudence. . .

And start speaking of them in terms which leave no room for confusion with the parodies of the virtue created by extremists on either side (humility is realism about oneself, not self-denigration; charity is an imitation of our Heavenly Father 'who makes the rain fall on the just and the unjust' not a grudging obligation which can be met through taxation and government spending; temperance is not teetotaling but due moderation in use of drink; chastity is celibacy OR confinement of erotic expression to one's spouse; thrift is not miserliness, . . .

As long as we talk about 'values' rather than 'virtues' we're playing backed up against our own goal line.

13 posted on 11/09/2004 5:31:25 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was)
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Violation of the commandment: "Thou Shall NOT covet thy neighbors goods"

this is a good one! i think what you mean is that democrats want to tax, tax, tax! and the tax dollars are used to put in place social programs that are a feeble attempt to produce "heaven on earth", a completely impossible concept.

america's values are helping one another, not paying big gov't to provide hand outs through buerocracy. there is joy in helping one another out; there is no joy in a bloated government.

14 posted on 11/09/2004 5:42:11 AM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: mlocher

Scratch a Liberal, he'll bleed envy, not blood.


15 posted on 11/09/2004 6:05:02 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: The_Reader_David

"Americans want a party committed to moral virtues not 'values'."

I agree and came to the same conclusion recently when debating the notion with a unconvinced lefty. Bill Bennett's "Book of Virtues" should be required reading for those of us who want to advance this debate.



16 posted on 11/09/2004 6:10:51 AM PST by MNnice
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To: kattracks
"How did a party that is filled with people with values -- and I am a person with values -- get tagged as the party without values?"

To Republicans, values are something we live with every day. They influence our decisions at work, at home, or wherever we may be.

To Democrats, values are like a valuable, antique cars - they don't even see the light of day unless they think it will get them somewhere!

17 posted on 11/09/2004 6:11:34 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a 'legal entity'!)
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To: kattracks
The obvious question remains un-asked: if you support the Democratic Party with its positions as sketched in this article, what does it mean to say you are a person with "values"? what 'values"?

You are compassionate to the poor? How so? With whose money? You want free health care for all? With whose money? You want gays to have the right to marry? How is that compassionate to the other 70% of the population whose religious values are compromised if they are they forced to recognize those marriages by the legal structures that you know full well will result?

What "values" is the governor talking about?

18 posted on 11/09/2004 6:14:35 AM PST by Taliesan (The power of the State to do good is the power of the State to do evil.)
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To: kattracks

WOW! Dead on.


19 posted on 11/09/2004 6:20:00 AM PST by SampleMan ("Yes I am drunk, very drunk. But you madam are ugly, and tomorrow morning I shall be sober." WSC)
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To: SE Mom

The Democrats know this but their leaders,the Liberal faction, think they can whip the rest of America into marching in lockstep like they have the rest of their party.
You can bet they will not give up,they will just try and put on another face like it is Halloween and continue to divide America and mold us like they have the moderates and conservatives of their own party.
They are much closer to success than most realize the last two elections should have been a wake up call to America. The Democrats or I should say the Liberals have taken over 90% of our educational facilities,the media,churches,the ABA and they have enough on the bench to legislate until they gain control of the rest of government and this to they will be able to do if we are not careful and when they reach this goal America wakes up with a Communist country and dictator.
Enjoy yourself it is later than you think if we accept this election as a total victory. To me it is just another call to awaken!


20 posted on 11/09/2004 6:24:23 AM PST by gunnedah
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