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Immigration: The New Third Rail
frontpagemagazine.com ^ | November 9, 2004 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 11/09/2004 3:44:38 AM PST by ovrtaxt

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1 posted on 11/09/2004 3:44:38 AM PST by ovrtaxt
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To: ovrtaxt
Whatever you do, Mike, don't say "wetback" on the air! Radio Station Pulls Talk Show After Ethnic Slur
2 posted on 11/09/2004 3:46:43 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Product registration is for sissies.)
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3 posted on 11/09/2004 3:51:10 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Product registration is for sissies.)
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Thanks to the flood of illegal aliens and the burden they are placing on this nation, American citizens are being increasingly denied the health care and the schooling they need because we are spending too much money on the illegals who, in a fit of political correctness, we are now expected to refer to with the less harsh description of "undocumented aliens."

And we wonder why our health insurance is out of reach. Between this strain on our system and malpractice lawyers, the finest health care system on earth faces a serious threat.

4 posted on 11/09/2004 3:53:49 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Product registration is for sissies.)
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5 posted on 11/09/2004 3:56:56 AM PST by Klickitat
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To: ovrtaxt

Earlier this year, Bush had mentioned a plan about it but the Democrats have never mentioned anything about it. I think there are two things that can be done;

1. Encourage liberal Democrats to move to Mexico.
2. Enact laws to prevent illegals from the resources they use in America.


6 posted on 11/09/2004 4:01:43 AM PST by kipita (Rebel – the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: ovrtaxt
I've been writing Congress for over 4 years about this problem and all I get in return are these "we understand your concern....thank-you for writing". It's time for us to hold their feet over the fire and get them to do something. Here are a few organizations who are taking on the fight. Get on their email list and they will alert you when Congress is trying to pass legislation on immigration.

http://www.fairus.org
http://www.numbersusa.com
http://www.usbc.org
7 posted on 11/09/2004 4:10:00 AM PST by Ginifer
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To: ovrtaxt
Arizona's Prop 200, which requires proof of citizenship for voter registration and application for "public benefits" and require reporting illegals attempting to acquire such services is already under attack by the MSM. The LA Times had a smear editoral on it where they called it "mean-spirited" and dragged out the guilt card claiming, "Thousands have died attempting to cross the state's forbidding terrain." They also whine that it won't be applied evenly, that it's unfair because of the history of American as an immigrant nation and all the other talking points the Left and open-border fanatics spout.

On "The John Ziegler Show" (KFI 640AM, LA 10pm-1am, M-F) I heard "The Arizona Republic" did an investigative piece using an American who has Mexican residency. He attempted to register to vote, to obtain government services and so on. In nearly all cases he was immediately asked if he was a citizen and/or had the proper documentation. Can you say HYPOCRASY, Mexico?

In case it flew under the radar, Powell and five or six other members of the Cabinet have been meeting with Vincente Fox this week. Here's Google News' coverage.

8 posted on 11/09/2004 4:33:58 AM PST by newzjunkey (San Diego, Kleptocrasy by the Sea. -- VOID the Illegal Mayoral "Election")
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To: ovrtaxt

Border control is a facade, and our government is on the way to losing complete control of this to foreign hustlers and their ethnic counterparts already in America acting like the fifth column.


9 posted on 11/09/2004 4:39:20 AM PST by junta
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I'm not sure about the negative financial impact -- the Texas economy would crumble if all illegals suddenly disappeared overnight.


10 posted on 11/09/2004 6:37:27 AM PST by DallasMike
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To: ovrtaxt

it is only "the finest healthcare system on earth" if you can afford it. Otherwise, it does not exist.


11 posted on 11/09/2004 7:38:16 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: DallasMike

it would crumble for a day....until employers found out that they would have to pay their workers on the books and the "going rate"...yes, they would have to raise prices...but things would work out well for AMERICANS in the long run.

Illegals are a DRAG on the taxpayers of the US.


12 posted on 11/09/2004 7:40:45 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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Actually, because fake IDs are so easy to come by, the vast majority of employers really do pay illegals the going rate. Places like McDonalds or Burger King are huge employers of illegal aliens. They try to weed out the illegals but there would be you-know-what to pay in lawsuits if they super-scrutinized Hispanics without super-scrutinizing everyone. Then then there's the problem of illegals who come here and have babies. Anyone born in the US is automatically a US citizen. Do we deport mom and then stick the kids in an orphanage?

The best long-term answer is to tightly control our borders but the problem of existing illegals is much more complex. I don't have a good, easy answer -- and I don't support amnesty programs either.

13 posted on 11/09/2004 8:12:42 AM PST by DallasMike
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In post 13 I should have said something like the "employers of the largest numbers of illegals" rather than the "vast amount of employers." Mom-and-pop businesses often don't care who they hire but major employers do care -- yet they still end up hiring high percentages of illegals.


14 posted on 11/09/2004 8:18:05 AM PST by DallasMike
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15 posted on 11/09/2004 8:20:00 AM PST by HiJinx (Support Our Troops ~ www.ProudPatriots.com)
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To: DallasMike

The easy answer is to end all these benefits they get paid for by US taxpayers. Give them 6 months to get their affairs in order and when the $ stop they either work or go home. Isn't that what we're told any way?....."all they want to do is come here and work". Also, I can just imagine the welfare fraud is out of control, especially in places like Dallas and Houston with the use of multiple ID's. Any more, when police are looking for an illegal they announced their given name plus all the aliases they go by.


16 posted on 11/09/2004 8:21:40 AM PST by american spirit
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One thing to require first - any proposal ought to be first applied to its advocates, then to the target illegal immigrants.

For example, requiring solid proof of citizenship before interacing with the government. Let's see how long the lines get at the DMV then.

17 posted on 11/09/2004 8:34:51 AM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: ovrtaxt

Stuff your PC BS!

They were wetbacks 60 years ago and are still wetbacks today.


18 posted on 11/09/2004 8:41:57 AM PST by dalereed
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To: DallasMike

My belief is that it doesn't matter if it's mom & pop store or a large fast food chain, if a business thinks it can get away with paying "minimal wages" to employees knowing full well the taxpayers will be socked with the rest of their living expenses for food, medical, etc. the result will continued loss of jobs for Americans, depressing of wages overall and more new welfare cases......hardly a recipe for a vibrant economy.

Add to that the fact that many employers now can EVADE numerous state and federal payroll taxes thus shifting more of the burden onto those businesses still trying to do it the right way. To insult to injury do we see a real savings on goods and services? Of course not, builders in Tx. have been using illegals for years, saving all kinds of $ on wages and taxes yet have prices on new homes stabilized at all?.....I think not. When we think about it......how really stupid is it to spend billions of our tax $ on people who nothing about this country then turn around and borrow billions to spend on our own infrastructure (schools, roads, etc.)?.....thus putting our children in the position of having to deal with unfathomable levels of public debt in the future.


19 posted on 11/09/2004 8:46:21 AM PST by american spirit
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BTTT


20 posted on 11/09/2004 8:50:13 AM PST by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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