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Zogby Mea Culpa: I am a Pollster, Not a Predictor
Zogby.com ^ | 11/8/04

Posted on 11/08/2004 2:51:36 PM PST by ambrose

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To: ambrose
As Shakespeare said, "Methinks the Lady doth protest too much."

It's interesting that Zogby thinks he needs to come out with this mea culpa. If it was just an honest mistake, he wouldn't need to explain it. Nope, he knows he screwed up, took sides, and distorted results, and this is why he's trying to explain himself now.

Not working.

The next few elections, people will laugh when they see a Zogby poll and say, "Oh yeah, this is the guy that said 2004 was Kerry's to lose! Bwahahahahaha!!!!"

61 posted on 11/08/2004 3:41:39 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: finnman69

How did Harris fit into that mix?


62 posted on 11/08/2004 3:42:07 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Cableguy; dvwjr; Dales; RWR8189; LS; counterpunch; skaterboy; Iowa Granny; Illinois Rep
My polling was right. My ability to predict was wrong.


63 posted on 11/08/2004 3:44:06 PM PST by kesg (Luds Rules!)
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To: ambrose
Hey Zig-Zog! Since you're finished as a Pollster, why not take a shot at that DNC Chairmanship. Give ol' Primal Scream Dean some competition.

Screw you and the camel you rode in on.

64 posted on 11/08/2004 3:44:48 PM PST by Babu
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To: Sloth

The guy is so full of it. He had a horse, and hoped he could INFLUENCE that ridiculous category of the Undecided. The fact is, Bush never trailed in the majority of polls throughout the race, though there were some swings within the MOE. Hopefully he has lost any credibility he may have had, Arab and Dum ties aside.


65 posted on 11/08/2004 3:47:56 PM PST by revealerls
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To: ambrose
Zogby Mea Culpa: I am a Pollster, Not a Predictor

You're a democrat hack who will never be believed again.

66 posted on 11/08/2004 3:52:34 PM PST by Semi Civil Servant (This space for sale.)
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To: ambrose

"... polls suggest that more voters listed “moral values” as their most important issue even though it barely registered in our pre-election poll or, for that matter, in our post-election surveys, either."

Moral values didn't rank highly prior to these exit polls because they weren't the most important issue, John. These flawed polls tell us absolutely nothing.
Krauthammer is on Fox talking about this topic...well, it's over now, but he was talking about it. This evangelical spin is , as Krauthammer put it, like the "angry white male" of the Gingrich revolution.

This election was won on national security. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.


67 posted on 11/08/2004 3:52:50 PM PST by Cosmo (Got wood?)
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To: ambrose

Zogby is no longer, in my opinion, a "professional" pollster. On the afternoon of election day he was predicting a Kerry win. A few days later on Mike Gallagher's radio show, Zogby became indignant when Mike challenged him about this. Zogby admitted that his data did not show a Kerry win, but that he went ahead and called it for Kerry anyway. He basically insulted Gallagher and ended the segment early.


68 posted on 11/08/2004 3:56:42 PM PST by zook
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To: A CA Guy

I don't know how to say blow me, but I know that a phrase that sounds like "boost easy" is a really really bad thing to say to someone in Arabic.


69 posted on 11/08/2004 3:58:14 PM PST by zook
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To: Lunkhead_01
I suppose you can always go back to teaching history at Utica College.

You know what they say--them that can't do, teach.

70 posted on 11/08/2004 4:00:12 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: ambrose

Which Zogby was it who made a BIG contribution to Kerry?


71 posted on 11/08/2004 4:03:28 PM PST by LittleBoPeep
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To: dead

I'll ask again. Which Zogby was it who made a BIG contribution to Kerry?


72 posted on 11/08/2004 4:04:49 PM PST by LittleBoPeep
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To: ambrose

The only excuse he left out was, "the dog ate my homework".


73 posted on 11/08/2004 4:10:05 PM PST by mombonn ( ¡Viva Bush/Cheney! Dukakis and Kerry are the matching bookends of the Bush era.)
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To: ZellsBells

LOL. Great minds think alike. This is a non-apology apology, a complete avoidance.

I hope his paying clientele on the right is dropping.


74 posted on 11/08/2004 4:17:10 PM PST by LibertarianInExile ( "[Y]our arguments are devoid of value. I, as a woman, have so declared it." -- BushIsTheMan)
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To: ambrose

Zogby is like CBS.... Insignificant, and irrelevent.

He is a partisan liberal arab hack and I hope he's washed up as a pollster.

Of course the libs love him, since he tired to get republicans to stay home by stating the race was Kerry's and he would win, before the polls closed.

IMHO, he knew the bloggers and others would report his biased liberal hack job call, and tried to get us to stay home like the networks did in 2000 in Florida.

This is the dems MO folks.

Call it early so folks stay home.

They couldn't get the networks to do it this year, so they found someone who would... His NAME = JOHN ZOGBY.

Way to go zogby, you're in ggod company now, those that are now insignificant.

Maybe you should go back to the mideast, you partisan hack.

You just don't matter. Don't do a mea culpa. Just Go Away.

Regards,
Sonar5


75 posted on 11/08/2004 4:20:00 PM PST by Sonar5 ("Global Test" - 2004 = "I'm an Internationalist" - 1970)
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To: ambrose
My ability to predict was wrong. For those of you who have supported my work over the years, I apologize. I will do better next time: I will just poll not predict.

Well, next time nobody will listen to you. I predict you're career as a pollster is over.

76 posted on 11/08/2004 4:25:40 PM PST by Starboard
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To: Sonar5
Yep RATs MO:

First "poll" and show that your favorite RAT is leading. Then you "exit poll" showing that you RAT is leading. Then you rig elections and voila - they were dead on!

Exept, this time vote rigging was countered by Conservative lawyers also and people checking sticky fingers at the polling places.

Everything was so nicely rigged, just as in the past when they got away with it. This time FReakin' FReepers blew the whistle on RATs and watched their sticky crooked fingers. Bring it on!

77 posted on 11/08/2004 4:40:51 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (We Voted the RATS out!!!)
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To: Leo Carpathian
that's: except

plus all decent Americans get pi$$ed and took time to vote the RATs out!

78 posted on 11/08/2004 4:42:36 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (We Voted the RATS out!!!)
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To: ambrose

everybody send me $50 i'll give you 2 football Locks for this weekend if they don't win it's their(the teams fault) fault---geez this guy is a hustler


79 posted on 11/08/2004 4:46:41 PM PST by rang1995
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To: ambrose

TOO late and way TOO insincere for me


80 posted on 11/08/2004 4:48:49 PM PST by CT CONSERVATIVE (NOT FAIR-That's Dan's Story to Break!!!)
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