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Thinking About 2008 Democratic Non-Hillary Edition)
crushkerry.com ^ | Nov. 8, 2004 | crushkerry.com

Posted on 11/08/2004 7:54:20 AM PST by crushelits

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To: Kenny500c
It will be Hillary. The MSM is now going out of their way to call her a "centrist."

Every single time you refer to her away from FR, make sure you add the phrase "Left-wing extremist" to her name.

21 posted on 11/08/2004 8:38:18 AM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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To: Brandon
We are facing an unusual situation: an incumbent, two-term president whose VP is widely acknowledged as being unsuitable for the 2008 nomination.

Bah. Cheney said from the outset that he never wanted to run from President. That goes back to when he was tapped in 2000.

22 posted on 11/08/2004 8:39:07 AM PST by Prime Choice (Don't just beat the Left...beat the HELL out of 'em!)
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To: Prime Choice
You are, of course, correct -- but politicians often claim they are not interested in being president when they really are. I happen to think Cheney is sincere in this -- but he would have been a fool to admit to presidential ambitions, especially in 2000. We already had more than enough people believing (and some still do) that he is really pulling GWB's strings.

But Cheney really isn't a good choice for 2008. First, he has high negatives. That could change, but it wouldn't be easy. Second, he will be in his late 60s, and has already had four or five heart attacks. I say this with all the compassion and good will in the world, but he is not a good risk to live until 2016, especially in a pressure-cooker job like the presidency.

But however you arrive at it, Cheney will almost certainly not be on the ballot in 2008 -- which brings us back to the question of whether GWB will endorse, and if so, who.

23 posted on 11/08/2004 9:02:09 AM PST by Brandon
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To: Brandon
Cheney will almost certainly not be on the ballot in 2008 -- which brings us back to the question of whether GWB will endorse, and if so, who.

I'd say we have until 2006 to sort that out. In the interim, our obligation is to watch the Republican governors as they'll be the primary pool from which a successor will arise. We've pretty much established that picking a Senator is kind of a lost cause these days. Way too much baggage no matter which side you're on.

24 posted on 11/08/2004 9:05:42 AM PST by Prime Choice (Don't just beat the Left...beat the HELL out of 'em!)
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To: crushelits

Guiliani + Rice in 2008.


25 posted on 11/08/2004 9:11:25 AM PST by jgorris
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To: Prime Choice
I'd say we have until 2006 to sort that out. In the interim, our obligation is to watch the Republican governors as they'll be the primary pool from which a successor will arise. We've pretty much established that picking a Senator is kind of a lost cause these days. Way too much baggage no matter which side you're on.

I'm right with you on the governors. There are far too many senators on the "prospects" list.

26 posted on 11/08/2004 9:20:48 AM PST by Brandon
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To: Prime Choice

"I just don't see a real Republican stand out candidate. The obvious one, Rudy, would have to change parties. He will never get enough of the conservative vote."

Your response to the article is spot on. In response to the above statement, I'd also have to disagree with the author. In addition to Rudy and McCain (who I agree would have a tough time getting the nomination due to their liberal social positions) we have Mit Romney, Condi Rice, Jeb Bush, and Rick Santorum to name a few. There is plenty of time to expand this group (and I'm sure that there are several other obvious choices that I'm overlooking.) Any of these names though have as much chance to win the Presidency as the "moderate" Dems listed above.


27 posted on 11/08/2004 9:49:20 AM PST by Syco
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To: crushelits

Perhaps she will avoid the 'NE liberal' label by moving back to Arkansas when she loses her seat in 2006.


28 posted on 11/08/2004 9:51:41 AM PST by expatpat
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To: crushelits

You forgot Daleyland's boygovernor, Blagoyevich. The Daley machine makes it's reach for national control. This could be a real fun democritter civil war to watch...the Daley machine vs. the Clinton machine


29 posted on 11/08/2004 9:55:43 AM PST by nuke rocketeer
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To: mywholebodyisaweapon

There were many discussions of Ford here over the weekend. I've always liked him, but many Tennessee Freepers said that the whole family is corrupt..and that the stench would come out in a national campaign..he couldn't stand the scrutiny....I believe he's going to challenge Pelosi for dem leader..if he loses that..he's finished..


30 posted on 11/08/2004 10:00:37 AM PST by ken5050
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To: nuke rocketeer

I have been impressed with Indiana Senator Bigh...
but voting records can kill you as Kerry knows and
Hillary will find out....Governor from Arizona may
be a sleeper....with Obama? Anyway..it'll'' be Jeb
in 12. Jake


31 posted on 11/08/2004 10:01:47 AM PST by sanjacjake
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To: crushelits
it's not too late to start thinking about the likely Democratic candidates for 2008.

Too late? Too LATE?!? *sigh* I thought it was a merciful act of Providence that this one didn't go past Thanksgiving, and now it's time for the 2008 run-up? NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

32 posted on 11/08/2004 10:18:52 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: ken5050

I hope you're right. If he runs for Frist's seat in 2006 and wins, then he's a very serious threat in 2008.


33 posted on 11/08/2004 12:01:07 PM PST by mywholebodyisaweapon
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