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Thinking About 2008 Democratic Non-Hillary Edition)
crushkerry.com ^ | Nov. 8, 2004 | crushkerry.com

Posted on 11/08/2004 7:54:20 AM PST by crushelits

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1 posted on 11/08/2004 7:54:23 AM PST by crushelits
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Excellent summary. My money is still on Ford for President, Rendell for Vice-President.

I haven't a clue whom the Republicans will run, but would take McLame/Giuliani as an early read.

I wish Bush/Cheney could run again in '08.


2 posted on 11/08/2004 7:59:33 AM PST by mywholebodyisaweapon
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To: crushelits

Lot of buzz over Virginia governor Mark Warner as well, in blogs and MSM. I also have heard Ken Salazar's name in blogs.


3 posted on 11/08/2004 8:01:13 AM PST by nj26
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To: crushelits

It will be Hillary.
The MSM is now going out of their way to call her a "centrist."
They will also still control the DNC.


4 posted on 11/08/2004 8:01:26 AM PST by Kenny500c
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To: crushelits
Al Gore Don't laugh.

Sorry, can't help it.

Doesn't matter - you can't just "assume" Hillary away.
The 800 900-pound gorilla in the living room won't go away, just because you want to look at the chimpanzees.

5 posted on 11/08/2004 8:01:37 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: mywholebodyisaweapon

I'll guess Rendell-Richardson.


6 posted on 11/08/2004 8:02:04 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: mywholebodyisaweapon

I think the Dems will be dumb enough to run Hillary, but this is some interesting reading on alternatives


7 posted on 11/08/2004 8:02:40 AM PST by SBOinTX
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To: mywholebodyisaweapon

I wish it could be Watts-Guiliani in '08.


8 posted on 11/08/2004 8:03:02 AM PST by kfowler1 (Watts for America '08.)
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To: crushelits
Dems should take a look at NC Governor Mike Easley. He also was just relected by a substantial margin, even while the Republicans won John Edwards' Senate seat.

If the Dems nominate someone from outside the South for president, they could do worse than Sen. Blanche Lincoln as a running mate. She may be the last of the real Southern Democrats.

9 posted on 11/08/2004 8:04:10 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (Proud Reagan Alumna!)
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To: mywholebodyisaweapon
I wish Bush/Cheney could run again in '08.

According to the Leftists, Bush was never elected for his first term...so technically (according to them), this is his first term and he should be eligible to run in 2008.

Unless, of course, the Left wants to admit they're wrong about the outcome of the 2000 election. That'll do just fine, too.

10 posted on 11/08/2004 8:05:31 AM PST by Prime Choice (Don't just beat the Left...beat the HELL out of 'em!)
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Sounds like the Dems nominating Evan Bayh would go a long way towards reducing my stress level in 2008.


11 posted on 11/08/2004 8:08:33 AM PST by UsnDadof8 (God, Country, and Family)
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To: crushelits
If the Dems were smart they would nominate Evan bayh.

Can you imagine an Evan Bayh vs. Guliani match up? The red and blue states might just reverse as both bases would be peeved.

12 posted on 11/08/2004 8:10:54 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Don't blame me, I volunteered for Toomey)
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To: crushelits

It's going to be Hillary Clinton or Edwards... my money is on Edwards.


13 posted on 11/08/2004 8:12:33 AM PST by Sameul Haque
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To: Prime Choice

Sad to say, it is very possible that we will have a democrat win the White House in 2008.

It all depends on the Republicans. We know what the democrats did in New Jersey with Lautenberg (spelling). If Cheney does step down ONLY due to health, we could have an early advantage. I just don't see a real Republican stand out candidate. The obvious one, Rudy, would have to change parties. He will never get enough of the conservative vote.

Here's hoping we win again.


14 posted on 11/08/2004 8:15:01 AM PST by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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But sad as it is to say, what may hurt him nationwide is the fact that he's Jewish.

I *really* don't think this is a problem. Think of all the states that have Jewish senators TODAY. It's practically a requirement in the upper midwest!

15 posted on 11/08/2004 8:22:59 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: sarasotarepublican
Sad to say, it is very possible that we will have a democrat win the White House in 2008.

Not if we stay on message and on target. The worst thing we could do in 2008 is buy into the ridiculous notion that we have to go Liberal/RINO/Democrat-Lite in order to compete with the Democrats. We won this year because we stayed true to the base. If we sell out the base in 2008, we can kiss the White House and several congressional seats goodbye for sure.

If Cheney does step down ONLY due to health, we could have an early advantage.

Nothing doing. If Cheney steps down for whatever reason, the Democrats will distort it to their advantage. Remember: truth doesn't matter to the Left, only perception does. And if they can manufacture the appearance of impropriety, they'll spout it as Gospel Truth until 2012. Nope...Cheney stays until January 20th, 2009.

I just don't see a real Republican stand out candidate. The obvious one, Rudy, would have to change parties. He will never get enough of the conservative vote.

There's plenty of time to cultivate a proper conservative candidate. Rome wasn't built in a day and we've got until 2006 to shake things out. Just stay true to the base, stay on message, keep the pressure on the party big-wigs and we should do all right.

Now is the time for hope! We have many good years ahead of us!

16 posted on 11/08/2004 8:24:51 AM PST by Prime Choice (Don't just beat the Left...beat the HELL out of 'em!)
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To: crushelits

There's Phil Bredesen in Tennessee. Great Red State Democratic Governor - totally "gets it." Better than RINO Sundquist. High popularity ratings. But his fiscal conservatism makes him anathema to the Michael Moore Left that runs the Democratic Party.


17 posted on 11/08/2004 8:28:42 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kenny500c

Whenever the media refers to a Democrat over and over again as a "centrist," that means that politician is a flaming liberal. What is Hillary a centrist about? And this bunk about her being a "hawk" on military matters makes me puke. Does anyone think Keg Legs Clinton has any regard for our military? She's a 60s radical.

Of course, the media will NEVER replay her record as a leftist Watergate lawyer, lawyer to the Black Panthers or co-conspirator with her psychotic husband. Her even being considered for President makes me vomit. Imagine the trash visiting the White House on a consistent basis?


18 posted on 11/08/2004 8:32:19 AM PST by GianniV
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To: dubyaismypresident

Bayh-Bredesen could do it. An all-Red State ticket. Unfortunately, the base of the Democratic Party has no interest in fighting for ground on enemy turf. One gets the feeling the Democrats would rather see their party dry out and blow away so they can feel ideologically pure. That's exactly how the Left would like it. They want as few DINOs as possible with the final answer being preferably "none."


19 posted on 11/08/2004 8:32:57 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Prime Choice
The 800 pound gorilla in the Republican nomination process is George W. Bush. We are facing an unusual situation: an incumbent, two-term president whose VP is widely acknowledged as being unsuitable for the 2008 nomination.

This means GWB will have a choice to make: Will he endorse, or won't he? My guess is that he will -- it fits the Bush/Rove pattern of picking people in GOP primaries and helping them towards the nomination (although they don't always succeed -- witness the CA governor's nomination in 2002). It also makes sense from the legacy perspective; the best way to ensure your legacy, if you are a president about to be term-limitted out, is to push the party towards nominating someone who can win, and who can be depended upon to continue in roughly the same direction.

I don't know who they will settle on -- they probably don't know yet, either (although they probably have favorites). Watch the Cabinet changes over the next few weeks, and watch who gets special attention from the White House in the 2006 elections -- especially candidates for governor. That will give you some clue as to which people are being groomed as potential successors.

And please note: I am not saying that the GOP must accept whoever GWB annoints. I know that some of his picks have not been popular on FR. But his opinion will matter to a lot of people, and if he decides to turn over his rolodex to one of the contestants, that is going to make a huge difference.

20 posted on 11/08/2004 8:37:31 AM PST by Brandon
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