Recognition of Macedonia: How the State Dept. gave Communism one last victory

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[Destro]

What State did is profoundly disturbing. More so because many here did know the history of the matter and think it is a stupid issue over a name.

Currently I blame State - I understand Bush has bigger fish to fry - but a State Dept, which makes matters more complicated and more dangerous for the sake of expediancy to get the Albanians as a device to get Albanian rebels an autonomous state is to much to not lay on Bush's door step.

[Destro]

More so because many here did NOT know the history of the matter and think it is a stupid issue over a name. - correction

[CWOJackson]

While I respect Greece and what it has gone through, the State Department doesn't select the names of other countries. This is no different then State calling the capital of Communist China Beijing instead of Peking.

Greece's argument is with Macedonia, not the United States.

[Destro]

Greek speakers on the Adriatic Coast? Learn geography and or history (It is not anywhere near Greece).

[Destro]

"The (State) Department has noted with considerable apprehension increasing propaganda rumors and semi-oficcial statements in favor of an autonomous Macedonia... with the implication that Greek territory would be included in the projected state. This Government considers talk of Macedonian "nation," Macedonian "Fatherland," or Macedonian national "consiousness" to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethic nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece."

US SECRETARY OF STATE
STETTINIUS
December 26, 1944

[CWOJackson]

Yes, and Beijing was Peking when that was written.

[Torie]

Macedonia should be part of Greece huh, even though no Greeks live in it? LOL. Give it up Destro.

[Hoplite]

Destro.

Get over it and quit whining already.

[Hoplite]

Maybe this'll break the perceived alignment of Balkan nutjobs and the Republican party.

If not, I guess the final disposition of Kosovo will do the trick.

[Destro]

Republicans better than Democrats. A president Gore (if Bush lost that first election) would have already done this.

Sort of like growing the Federal Govt. - Democrats and Republicans both grow it just that Republicans grow it slower.

[Destro]

Learn geography first and then your statement would be listened to.

[Destro]

Great Prophet Zarquon Since Oct 4, 2004

Nice to meet you.

[Torie]

Actually two thirds of Macedonians are Serb types who speak another language closer to Bulgarian rather than Serbian, but unlike Bulgarians, don't have any Bulgar blood in them, so racially they are somewhat different. The balance are of Albanian ancestry, but have lived in the area for about 200 years. The Serb types seem to think they should be their own country, and I doubt the Albania types want to be part of either basket case Kosovo or Albania, and are too small an entity really to forge their own entity. They probably hope the whole place is absorbed by the EU. Cheers.

[Hoplite]

And a President Dole, circa '96, would have done it before Gore '00.

But, as you said, Republicans better than Democrats.

[Destro]

Oh yea - I forgot about Dole - being that he was so forgetable. You are correct Dole would have done it as well being that he was in hock to the Albanian mafia for millions.