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Voters double-dip in Ohio, Fla.
The Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | 10/31/2004 | Scott Hiaasen, Dave Davis and Julie Carr Smyth

Posted on 10/31/2004 5:17:13 AM PST by Captiva

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Looks like my right to vote is being cancelled.
1 posted on 10/31/2004 5:17:17 AM PST by Captiva
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To: Captiva

It shows how absolutely unethical and UNlaw abiding the people are. It probably doesn't even bother them that they are committing a crime.


2 posted on 10/31/2004 5:19:50 AM PST by marty60
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Nothing you can do about it this week, but they need to prosecute the hell out of the double voters after the election.


4 posted on 10/31/2004 5:23:07 AM PST by MichiganMan (Hey remember when Jim Jeffords actually mattered?)
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To: marty60

Jail them. Until there are long prison sentences the fraud will continue.


5 posted on 10/31/2004 5:24:12 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Captiva

When I moved to a new state, I would have been registered in two states at once for a time until my registration in my old state of residence expired. Of course I never voted in both states. It is not illegal to be registered to vote in two states. The problem is knowing who will actually VOTE (illegally) in both states.


6 posted on 10/31/2004 5:26:54 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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The GOP found out that New Jersey and New York snowbirds voted absentee at home
also voted in person in Florida. One man said he had done it in the past 4 presidentials. He was proud of it. They need to prosecute every one.


7 posted on 10/31/2004 5:27:05 AM PST by oldironsides
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Ther is a very easy way to disuade "Snowbirds" from voting in Florida plus another state!

Let the State Revenue Departments announce that any person voting in their "State Income Tax" state will have their state income tax records reviewed! Since almost all of the "Snowbirds" declare themselves to be residents of Florida (no state income tax, residential homestead exemptions, etc.) they would run the risk of having to pay taxes to their "old states"...

8 posted on 10/31/2004 5:28:29 AM PST by ExSES
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Excellent tactic.


9 posted on 10/31/2004 5:34:51 AM PST by Captiva (DVC)
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"...a practice frowned on by election officials in both states.

Frowned on?!! This is criminal - catching a half dozen of these dishonorable people should not be too hard - throw the book at them with a jail sentence and fine! I know a well known lawyer and his wife who are doing just this - voting both in Chicago and AZ.

10 posted on 10/31/2004 5:36:14 AM PST by yoe (Kerry is the re-invention of Jimmy Carter)
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To: Captiva

I wouldn't worry. Most Ohio retirees in Florida are solid Republican voters on the Gulf Coast.


11 posted on 10/31/2004 5:39:15 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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It looks like the political machines that run elections have *zero* interest in fair/proper elections.

A very small piece of me wants to see extensive legal challenges from both sides so everyone can see how lax the system is.

There are more identification controls at Blockbuster then at Board of Elections.


12 posted on 10/31/2004 5:39:48 AM PST by Captiva (DVC)
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"It's not against the law to be registered in two places

It's time to make it against the law. When a person registers in a new state, there should be automatic notification, state to state, that he is no longer registered in the previous state. The same thing could happen when moving within a state. The 'Rats don't want anything that clears voter rolls of non-legal voters.

13 posted on 10/31/2004 5:40:21 AM PST by Freee-dame
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I wouldn't worry. Most Ohio retirees in Florida are solid Republican voters on the Gulf Coast.

It's OK if they fraudsters are on our side?

Plus, the Florida Atlantic Coast has the massive Northeast snow bird migration.

14 posted on 10/31/2004 5:45:00 AM PST by Captiva (DVC)
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"It is a problem," said Sharon Harrington, Lee County, Fla., supervisor. "Those are the ones that really ought to be caught."

You have their names.
You have their addresses.

Now go do the right thing.

15 posted on 10/31/2004 5:49:26 AM PST by woofer
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No, it's NEVER OK to commit voter fraud.

All I'm saying is that I'm not worried about this particular case throwing the election to Kerry illegitimately.


16 posted on 10/31/2004 5:51:18 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Freee-dame

When a person registers in a new state, there should be automatic notification, state to state, that he is no longer registered in the previous state.

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Sounds like a great plan to me!
Voters who live in two places will have to decide which ONE address will be their Official address. This means that they cannot vote for local officials in their vacation home state. Maybe the husband should vote one place, and the wife in the other state - sort of the way the Kerrys file their income taxes.

It seems that requesting duplicate absentee ballots is not much of a "problem" for a significant number of people.


17 posted on 10/31/2004 5:52:16 AM PST by maica ( November 2nd is Vietnam Veterans' Day)
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To: Dutch Boy
Until there are long prison sentences the fraud will continue.

I agree. If someone votes in two places, they need to be prosecuted. But I have never heard of someone being successfully prosecuted for violation of election laws. I have also never heard of any party officials being prosecuted for violation of campaign finance laws, so I guess it is too much to hope.

18 posted on 10/31/2004 5:53:04 AM PST by TN4Liberty (The difference between a dead democrat and a live democrat is that the dead one only votes once.)
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"It's a trust system," Greenman said.

Wellllll, isn't that special?!

19 posted on 10/31/2004 6:01:17 AM PST by Timeout (Just hours to go....before we sleep!)
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To: Captiva

Can anyone guess at the breakdown (Rep vs Dem) of those dually registered? I'd suspect that it's not just Ohio Dems that enjoy Florida's beaches. With Ohio being a Rep. state it could be that the majority of these are conservatives.


20 posted on 10/31/2004 6:04:50 AM PST by Round 9
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