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Election Eve (Eve ; Eve ; Eve) Thoughts on the Responsibilities That Come With Citizensh
self | 29 October, 2004 | joanie-f

Posted on 10/29/2004 5:51:37 PM PDT by joanie-f

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To: Landru

You're so smart! :-)


181 posted on 11/02/2004 10:17:19 AM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: ForGod'sSake
While everything you say is true, it doesn't excuse the GOP leadership. We can whine and cry that the media won't let us get our message out, but that is just an excuse. Ronald Reagan had very little trouble getting his message out. In fact, whenever he had trouble with the Congress, he always took his message to the people. And he won on a regular basis.

The vast majority of the denizens of Congress are simply too fat, lazy, and complacent to do anything about creeping socialism. Joe Average doesn't know socialism from Adam's house cat. The left has succeeded in convincing Joe Average that the government is some institutional Santa Claus. The GOP does nothing to disabuse the public of this notion because it is not in their best interest to do so. In fact, many of the current Republican residents of Congressional seats have no beef with the Democrats over ideology. Their goal is to prevent the Democrats from getting credit for spending taxpayer money by spending it first themselves. Spending our money is all right with much of the GOP as long as it is the GOP that is doing the spending.

Until and unless a viable political entity arises that is able and willing to redefine the political debate in this country, the media will still have an easy job of maintaining its monopoly on information. Remember, journalists on the whole are not that bright. These are the folks that Mark Twain said failed at ditching and shoe-making. It is utter turpitude on the part of the right that allows them their latitude. When the right grows a spine and decides to take back this country, the media will be utterly powerless to stop us.
182 posted on 11/02/2004 10:28:28 AM PST by NCSteve
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To: Landru
The Liberal-Socialist quisling mediots will destroy this republic, in the end.

Their goal makes 'em our enemy. Not just a domestic enemy but a worldwide enemy. The MSM is the 800 lb gorilla that no one seems to know what to do with. At least those of us that care, eh?

And to think American industry is paying for it all. Bless their hearts ;^) Will the shareholders EVER face these utopian dreamers down?

The good news? Our homegrown media at least is takin' it in the shorts. The fact that their credibility has reached new lows hasn't seemed to slow 'em down any either. This election seems to have brought out the worst in our faux press. The internet and talk radio(of all things) is bringing down the 800 lb gorilla......with one hand tied behind its back!

It's the damnedest thing watching a parasite kill the host, but that's precisely what the quislings are doing.

Only weakening the host IMO. To be remade into a true Ministry of Information if they have their way. Will we allow it to happen? Stay tuned ;^)

183 posted on 11/02/2004 10:33:00 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Landru; FBD; ForGod'sSake; joanie-f
Be careful of Fox, will you? They're *not* a friend of conservatives.

I agree. I just watch them because they’re on 24/7 and are less likely to cause indigestion than any other news channel.

Back on the “useful idot” theme---I read a great article by Kate O’Beirne just yesterday. She has their number:

Despite the thousands of campaign ads and the oceans of spilled media ink over the past year, the ignorant voter outnumbers voters of all stripes. That the public’s knowledge of current affairs is in a sorry state is the only safe call we can make in this year’s race.

She goes on to say that only 5% of voters pay close attention to policy and politics. About 70% of Americans don’t know that Congress recently passed a Medicare prescription drug plan---the largest federal entitlement expansion in decades. 65% don’t know that a ban on partial birth abortion has been enacted, etc, etc.

Let’s just hope the majority she talks about in these cases are also to lazy to go to the polls today, although news reports aren’t showing that.

184 posted on 11/02/2004 10:50:25 AM PST by Minuteman23
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To: NCSteve
Ronald Reagan had very little trouble getting his message out. In fact, whenever he had trouble with the Congress, he always took his message to the people. And he won on a regular basis.

I think you'll admit RR was an exceptional man. He had Americans eating out of his hand, but how? Statesman like Ronald Reagan come along once in a lifetime. Few men have the stature to pull off what he did. One of the greatest IMHO.

It is utter turpitude on the part of the right that allows them their latitude. When the right grows a spine and decides to take back this country, the media will be utterly powerless to stop us.

Well said BUT, I see it as the ol' chicken and egg argument. Who's gonna make the first move, the people or their representatives? The first order of business for a representative of the people is to get elected; then stay elected(apparently). How many Tom Delays do you see running around congress? Not many. Tom Delay is in a SOLID conservative district that allows him to speak his mind on things conservative AND get reelected. The media be damned!

Anyway, the point being, we get what we pay for so to speak. When the people begin to get a spine(as I think we're seeing over the last few election cycles), the representatives of the people will follow. It's up to us.

FGS

185 posted on 11/02/2004 11:00:55 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake
It's up to us.

I couldn't agree more. It always has been.

186 posted on 11/02/2004 11:03:54 AM PST by NCSteve
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To: Minuteman23
Yup, sounds like she nailed 'em.

Let’s just hope the majority she talks about in these cases are also to lazy to go to the polls today, although news reports aren’t showing that.

The eternal optimist in me is holding out hope that conservatives have come to life this election. Praying for the best.

To be continued. Headed out for fajitas ;^)

FGS

187 posted on 11/02/2004 11:06:24 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Happygal
"You're so smart!"

HA!!
Baloney.
You're such a shmoozer, Angel.

How'ya been?

Everything's A-OK here, SOS actually.

...getting real close to moving my dog & pony show north.

188 posted on 11/02/2004 11:45:59 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: ForGod'sSake; FBD
>The Liberal-Socialist quisling mediots will destroy this republic, in the end.
"Their goal makes 'em our enemy. Not just a domestic enemy but a worldwide enemy."

Couldn't agree more, my friend.

"The MSM is the 800 lb gorilla that no one seems to know what to do with. At least those of us that care, eh?"

Yea those of us who care, and you could see what number that was from our days way back with CCRM.
I guess I can't rag on people too much for not being as passionate as we seemed to be, they couldn't conceptualize the enormity of the threat the quislings presented.
Still, the chickens have to come home to roost, whether we want to face it or not.

"And to think American industry is paying for it all. Bless their hearts ;^)"

What hearts.
Our friend from the coast, FBD, said it best when he quoted the fella that said, paraphrased, "A Capitalist will sell his executioner the rope that'll be used to hang him with."
That's so right.

"Will the shareholders EVER face these utopian dreamers down?"

Shareholders haven't a clue, not a clue.
Most are probably working to get Bush out & the Ferry-job elected in hopes of returning us to the Clintigula years when their stocks were paying big -- albeit inflated *&* worthless -- dividends.

"The good news? Our homegrown media at least is takin' it in the shorts. The fact that their credibility has reached new lows hasn't seemed to slow 'em down any either."

Yea, and that's not just insane either, FGS.
*That* is the best clue yet as to what it is they really want to do and role they see themselves playing, as opposed to the readers of news & information.

"This election seems to have brought out the worst in our faux press."

Well the flakes have a point to make.
Need to see, for themselves, if they've retained *any* of their former power.
This election has been, among other things, a way they're trying to guage their influence.
Like the drunk frantically serching everywhere for that bottle of booze they'd hid during better times?

"The internet and talk radio(of all things) is bringing down the 800 lb gorilla...with one hand tied behind its back!"

Think so?
For my part I'll reserve my opin and wait until the election results are in before doling out credits.

>It's the damnedest thing watching a parasite kill the host, but that's precisely what the quislings are doing.
"Only weakening the host IMO. To be remade into a true Ministry of Information if they have their way. Will we allow it to happen?"

>?<

"Stay tuned"

You bet.

...came too far to bolt, now.

189 posted on 11/02/2004 11:59:37 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: Minuteman23
"Let’s just hope the majority she talks about in these cases are also to lazy to go to the polls today, although news reports aren’t showing that."

See?

...that's what I mean.

190 posted on 11/02/2004 12:01:02 PM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: joanie-f

Joanie, I am SO sorry that Pennsylvania didn't come through, after all your hard work. But take heart, lass. Florida and Ohio will come through.

You have mail.


191 posted on 11/02/2004 8:10:45 PM PST by Minuteman23
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To: joanie-f
Tough loss eh girl? I know you and your fellow patriots worked your hearts out. Overall, looks like you guys made it a lot closer than anyone expected. As I type this, apparently late returns are narrowing the gap even more. You done good!

FGS

192 posted on 11/02/2004 9:17:05 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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