Posted on 10/29/2004 2:54:15 PM PDT by gr8bigdude
If you have to say it, you don't have it...
There are Two more questions to ask Senator Kerry:
#1. How did you know that OBL wasn't killed in Tora Bora and were complaining about outsourcing the hunt last week?
#2. How did you know that there were no WMDs in Iraq when we invaded Iraq this time? That is the opposite of what you said about WMDS in Iraq in previous times and before the regime change.
What a bunch of BS.
They were planing and training for the Sept 11th attack long before Bush the 2nd took office (or even knew he had a chance of becoming president).
This attack clearly would have taken place even if Gore had been elected in 2000.
I still don't believe OBL is alive. But...
Where is OBL ?....The Maldives perhaps.
Not the full text!!!!
It gets worse...
Here is more found on the AJ Site---
There seems to be a lot of confusion on many fronts as to all that was said...I don't think most people have seen the full text which is a lot more adversarial that the 7 minute version and I think it needs to be on its own thread considering the potential we are facing here...
english.aljazeera.net/NR/...27FECD.htm
and the rest of the text-
Bin Ladin calls Americans 'vulgar and without sound ethics'
Usama bin Ladin has issued a message to the American people, broadcast on Saturday on Aljazeera television. A full and exclusive translation follows:
"Oppression will only go against the oppressors.
"This is a message from Usama bin Muhammad bin Ladin to the American people regarding your aggression in Iraq. Peace be upon those who follow the righteous path.
"Some have the impression that you are a reasonable people. But the majority of you are vulgar and without sound ethics or good manners. You elect the evil from among you, the greatest liars and the least decent and you are enslaved by your richest and the most influential among you, especially the Jews, who lead you using the lie of democracy to support the Israelis and their schemes and in complete antagonism towards our religion (Islam).
"These schemes are paid for in our blood and land, and your blood and economy.
"This has been proved by recent events. And the war on Iraq, which has nothing to do with you, is proof of that.
"Bush and his gang, with their heavy sticks and hard hearts, are an evil to all humankind. They have stabbed into the truth, until they have killed it altogether in the eyes of the world.
"With this behaviour they have encouraged hypocrisy, and spread vice and political bribes shamelessly at the level of heads of state.
Blood
"This gang and their leader enjoy lying, war and looting to serve their own ambitions. The blood of the children of Vietnam, Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq is still dripping from their teeth. They have fooled you and deceived you into invading Iraq a second time. And they have lied to you and the whole world.
"Thanks be to God Almighty who has exposed the lies of George Bush and made his term as president a term of continual catastrophe"
Usama bin Ladin
"Nations are nothing without ethics and morals. If these are gone, the nations are gone.
Bush has sent your sons into the lion’s den, to slaughter and be slaughtered, claiming that this act was in defence of international peace and America’s security, thus concealing the facts.
"On one hand he (Bush) is carrying out the demands of the Zionist lobby that helped him to enter the White House. These demands are to destroy the military strength of Iraq because it is too close to the Jews in occupied Palestine, regardless of the harm that will happen to your people and your economy.
"On the other hand, he (Bush) is concealing his own ambitions and the ambitions of the Zionist lobby and their own desire for oil. He is still following the mentality of his ancestors who killed the Native Americans to take their land and wealth. He thought that this time it would be an easy task and a lie that would not be exposed.
Profit into loss
"But God sent him to Baghdad, the seat of the Caliphate, the homeland of people who prefer death to honey. So they (the Iraqis) turned his profits into losses, his joy into sadness and now he is merely looking for a way back home.
"Thanks be to God Almighty who has exposed the lies of George Bush and made his term as president a term of continual catastrophe.
"To Bush I say, you are begging the world to come to your aid, begging mercenaries from every corner of the world, even from small states. This begging has destroyed your pride and revealed how trivial and weak you are after claiming to defend the whole world.
"Now you are like the knight who was trying to protect people from the Sword of Malik, and ended up begging someone to protect him.
"We reserve the right to retaliate at the appropriate time and place against all countries involved, especially the UK, Spain, Australia, Poland, Japan and Italy, not to exclude those Muslim states that took part, especially the Gulf states, and in particular Kuwait, which has become a launch pad for the crusading forces.
Folly
"I say to the American people we will continue to fight you and continue to conduct martyrdom operations inside and outside the United States"
Usama bin Ladin
"And to the American soldiers in Iraq I say, now that all the lies have been exposed and the greatest liar has been revealed, your stay on Iraq’s land is compounding the oppression and is a great folly.
"It shows you are selling your lives for the lives of others. And you are spilling your blood to swell the bank accounts of the White House gang and their fellow arms dealers and the proprietors of great companies. And the greatest folly in life is to sell your life for the lives of others.
"In conclusion, I say to the American people we will continue to fight you and continue to conduct martyrdom operations inside and outside the United States until you depart from your oppressive course and abandon your follies and rein in your fools.
"You have to know that we are counting our dead, may God bless them, especially in Palestine, who are killed by your allies the Jews. We are going to take revenge for them from your blood, God willing, as we did on the day of New York. Remember what I said to you on that day about our security and your security. Baghdad the seat of the Caliphate, will not fall to you, God willing, and we will fight you as long as we carry our guns. And if we fall, our sons will take our place.
"And may our mothers become childless if we leave any of you alive on our soil."
Aljazeera
By
You can find this article at:
english.aljazeera.net/NR/...27FECD.htm
O.k. Osamma...glad you explained yourself...now just stand still for the crosshairs......
Following is an AFP translation of Bin Laden’s message
"O American people, this is what I have to say about the causes and results (of the September 11, 2001 attacks) and the way to avoid another Manhattan.
"I tell you that security is a major pillar of human life. Free men do not renounce their security, irrespective of (US President George W.) Bush's claims that we hate freedom.
"Let him (Bush) tell us why we did not attack Sweden, for example. It is obvious that those who hate freedom cannot have the pride of the 19 (September 11 suicide hijackers), God rest their souls. If we fought you, it is because we are free men, we do not ignore values, we want to return freedom to our nation. If you play havoc with our security, we play havoc with yours.
"You astonish me. Despite the fact that we are into the fourth year after September 11, Bush is still misleading you and hiding the real reason from you, which means that the reasons to repeat what happened remain.
"I will tell you about the reasons of these events and about the moments in which the decision (to attack) was taken so you will ponder them. I swear we never thought of attacking the towers, but when we saw the injustice and arbitrariness of the US-Israeli alliance against our brethren in Palestine and Lebanon, it became too much and the idea came to me.
"The events which affected me directly go back to 1982 ... when America gave the Israelis the green light to invade Lebanon, with the backing of the US Sixth Fleet. It is difficult to describe what I felt in these painful moments, but it created an overwhelming feeling of refusal of injustice and a compelling determination to punish the unjust.
"As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me that the unjust should suffer the same, that the towers in America must be destroyed so that America gets a taste of what we went through, so that it will stop killing our children and women.
"We did not find it hard to deal with Bush and his administration given the similarity with the regimes in our countries, half of which are governed by soldiers and the other half by the offspring of kings and presidents. We have a long experience with those. Both categories count people who are arrogant, greedy and embezzle (public) funds.
"The similarity began at the time of visits by Bush the father (former US president George Bush) to the region. At a time when some of our kinfolk were impressed by America and hoped that these visits would impact on our countries, it turned out that he was the one affected by these monarchies and military regimes, envying them for keeping their posts tens of years, embezzling public funds without being held accountable or monitored.
"He transferred tyranny and repression of freedoms to his son and they called it a national law (US Patriot Act, introduced) under the pretext of combating terrorism.
"Bush's father thought it was a good thing to put his sons to govern states. And he did not forget to transfer (election-) forging skills from the presidents of the region to Florida to use them in critical times.
"We had agreed with (suicide hijacker) Mohammad Atta, God rest his soul, that he finishes all operations in 20 minutes before Bush and his administration take notice.
"It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the US armed forces would leave 50,000 of his citizens in the two towers to face these horrors alone at a time when they were most in need of him.
"He reckoned that it was more important to preoccupy himself with the talk of the little girl about her goat ... than with the planes and their strike on the skyscrapers, giving us three times the time required to carry out the operations, thanks be to God.
"Your security is not in the hands of (Democratic presidential candidate John) Kerry, Bush or Al-Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands. Any (presidential) mandate which does not play havoc with our security would automatically ensure its own security."
Source: Islam Online
Dang, looks like he's undead.
NOT!!!!!
Sounds like UBL has been watching Michael Moore films. Where else would he get this reference? Only the fat sloth has ever made an issue out of this.
"we never thought that the high commander of the US armies would leave 50 thousand of his citizens in both towers to face the horrors by themselves when they most needed him because it seemed to distract his attention from listening to the girl telling him about her goat butting was more important than paying attention to airplanes butting the towers which gave us three times the time to execute the operation thank god."
Either Michael Moore wrote this script or Osama is insane. Or both.
I've seen a bootleg copy too. I watched all of 15 minutes.
Thanks
Someone on Fox and Friends this am stole my idea. He was discussing the tape and said it contained everything except, "I'm Osama Bin Laden and I approve this message".
H'mm, where have I heard this type of sentence construction before.
You know, OBL does kind of look like a horse, doesn't he? Is his voice stentorian, too?
Has anyone ever seen him and Kerry in the same room together?
Originally, I also watched only about 15 minutes of it -- as much as I could stand. But then, I suffered the entire piece of crap when I knew that "Celsius 41.11" was coming out, just so I could ask the leftists if they were going to see both, as I have.
Post # covered the whole thing.
Post # 2 covered the whole thing.
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