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Swift Vets Pull Kerry "less than honorable" thread
Swif Vets and POWs for the truth. ^ | 10/29/2004

Posted on 10/29/2004 12:19:03 PM PDT by Fatalis

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To: ArmyBratCutie
KERRY ADMITS MILITARY RECORDS are NOT PUBIC as he has CLAIMED

Ewww.

21 posted on 10/29/2004 12:49:18 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (John Kerry: The wrong candidate in the wrong election at the wrong time)
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To: Yo-Yo

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW is right HAHAHAHHAHHAHAAHA
you can see what my real thoughts are about him... I've always said he was a "p*ssy whipped whiney wussy"...


22 posted on 10/29/2004 12:52:32 PM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: NoClones

I'm still passing it along to anyone I know who might remotely be undecided.


23 posted on 10/29/2004 12:53:26 PM PDT by dubyain04jebin08and12
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To: Fatalis
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject: Please Be Advised... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We have been advised that material was recently posted to this forum referencing the nature of John Kerry's discharge from the military service. That material has been deleted from this forum.

Please be advised that posts made to this forum express the views and opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of Swift Vets and POWs for Truth.

Thank You

Posted by Admin Not Good

24 posted on 10/29/2004 12:58:34 PM PDT by Nov3 (Is it just me or has correct titling, formating, and linking of posts become a lost art?)
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To: Nov3

My guess is that releasing any info regarding Kerry's discharge without Kerry having signed the DD180 release form is a violation of privacy laws.

Since the original story was credited to a Former secretary of the Navy who happens to currently be a U.S. Senator any violation of law would be a very big deal indeed.


25 posted on 10/29/2004 1:04:42 PM PDT by Smoote
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To: Smoote
Since the original story was credited to a Former secretary of the Navy who happens to currently be a U.S. Senator any violation of law would be a very big deal indeed.

There are things worth going to jail over.

26 posted on 10/29/2004 1:06:14 PM PDT by Nov3 (Is it just me or has correct titling, formating, and linking of posts become a lost art?)
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To: Nov3
"There are things worth going to jail over."

I agree with you. The Senator is being a whimp.

27 posted on 10/29/2004 1:10:00 PM PDT by Smoote
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To: So Cal Rocket

That is a post from yesterday.


28 posted on 10/29/2004 1:10:46 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: Fatalis

threat of lawsuit?


29 posted on 10/29/2004 1:11:39 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Feeling so much calmer now I've cancelled my cable TV. Don't miss the Demopuke spin on cable news.)
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To: Nov3

Protecting our nation from Kerry and Company is one of them.

Someone knows the truth. I hope it gets out there before it's too late.


30 posted on 10/29/2004 1:11:58 PM PDT by tarzantheapeman
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To: Smoote
Since the original story was credited to a Former secretary of the Navy who happens to currently be a U.S. Senator any violation of law would be a very big deal indeed.

This is the original story:

Okay, folks.

We got it finally. We have the person who gave Kerry his Other Than Honorable Discharge.

Stay tuned for more...

Now to MAKE THE MEDIA AND CONGRESS LISTEN!

Go my brothers and sisters -- spread the news to everyone!!!!

- Chief

Doesn't say anything about a sitting Senator.

31 posted on 10/29/2004 1:14:34 PM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: tarzantheapeman

If it doesn't break before the election I hope they keep it for the next one. Unfortunately it will probably break on Nightline in December with Big Head Ted talking about how Kerry's discharge was a Red Badge of Courage. This sucks.


32 posted on 10/29/2004 1:14:40 PM PDT by Nov3 (Is it just me or has correct titling, formating, and linking of posts become a lost art?)
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To: stockpirate; Vn_survivor_67-68; Nov3
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject: Please Be Advised... Reply with quote

We have been advised that material was recently posted to this forum referencing the nature of John Kerry's discharge from the military service. That material has been deleted from this forum.

Please be advised that posts made to this forum express the views and opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of Swift Vets and POWs for Truth.

Thank You

Please be advised...

33 posted on 10/29/2004 1:17:18 PM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: Fatalis
"Doesn't say anything about a sitting Senator."

From Powerlineblog.com;

"News on Kerry's Discharge? I can't count the number of emails we've gotten from readers on the apparent mystery surrounding John Kerry's discharge from the Navy. There has been suspicion, but no hard evidence, that his original discharge was less than honorable, and that is why he refuses to make his military records public.

It appears that the Swift Boat Vets may finally have broken through on this issue:

Okay, folks. We got it finally. We have the Former Secretary of the Navy who stated, "Yes, Kerry did receive an Other Than Honorable Discharge.

Stay tuned for more... We know nothing more, and I have no way to assess the credibility of this report. So far, however, the Vets' track record is very good."

I also know from being an active member at Swiftvets that discussions with a certain Senator who was Secretary of the Navy have been underway.

34 posted on 10/29/2004 1:36:49 PM PDT by Smoote
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To: Smoote
We got it finally. We have the Former Secretary of the Navy who stated, "Yes, Kerry did receive an Other Than Honorable Discharge.

Yeah, I posted that here.

Doesn't mention a sitting Senator. I still have the entire deleted thread. Doesn't mention a sitting Senator/former Navy Sec anywhere.

Do you have a link to any other thread mentioning this sitting Senator?

35 posted on 10/29/2004 1:47:56 PM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: Boundless
Like Tuco said: "When you have to shoot - shoot, don't talk."

"Blon-deee!!!"

36 posted on 10/29/2004 1:55:30 PM PDT by HenryLeeII ("How do you ask a goose to be the last goose to die for a shameless political stunt?" -Tony in Ohio)
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To: Fatalis
There have only been so many SecNavs since Kerry entered the service.

Presumptively this referrs to John Warner, who would most likely have been the SecNav when Kerry was supposed to have received his discharge.

But a SecNav seldom is up to speed on the discharge of every LtJG who musters out on his watch.

But, Kerry called a lot of attention to himself in ways quite inconsistant with his standing as a commissioned officer, so the situation might have been a point of discussion and notice by SecNav.

37 posted on 10/29/2004 1:59:20 PM PDT by steve in DC
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To: Fatalis

Secretaries of the Navy from 1969

Paul R. Ignatius...............................1 Sep 1967 - 24 Jan 1969
John H. Chafee...............................31 Jan 1969 - 4 May 1972
John W. Warner.............................4 May 1972 - 8 Apr 1974
J. William Middendorf....................8 Apr 1974 - 20 Jan 1977
W. Graham Claytor, Jr...................14 Feb 1977 - 24 Aug 1979
Edward Hidalgo..............................24 Oct 1979 - 20 Jan 1981
John Lehman..................................5 Feb 1981 - 10 Apr 1987
James H. Webb............................. 1 May 1987 - 23 Feb 1988
William L. Ball............................... 28 Mar 1988 - 15 May 1989
Henry L. Garrett III........................15 May 1989 - 26 Jun 1992
Daniel Howard (Acting)..................26 Jun 1992 - 7 July 1992
Sean O'Keefe.................................2 Oct 1992 - 20 Jan 1993
ADM Frank B. Kelso, II (Acting).. 2 Jan 1993 - 21 Jul 1993
John H. Dalton...............................22 Jul 1993 - 16 Nov 1998
Richard Danzig...............................16 Nov 1998 - 20 Jan 2001
Robert B. Pirie, Jr.(acting)...............20 Jan 2001 - 24 May 2001
Gordon R. England.........................24 May 2001 to present

I guess that the assumption is that it's John Warner, since he would have been the relevant Sec. of the Navy.


38 posted on 10/29/2004 2:06:14 PM PDT by AmishDude (Death penalty for vote fraud.)
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To: steve in DC

John Warner would have had sources. As a Senator and as a former Sec of Navy. Come to think of it, if Kerry's Honorable Discharge came in the Clinton administration, you would think somebody would have known the truth -- and that it would have been common knowledge at the time that Kerry entered Congress.


39 posted on 10/29/2004 2:08:10 PM PDT by AmishDude (Death penalty for vote fraud.)
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To: Fatalis
"Do you have a link to any other thread mentioning this sitting Senator?"

Do a search for Senator Warner. I will tell you though that you will find no reference to Sen. Warner having told anyone that Kerry recieved any particular kind of discharge for obvious reasons.

I respect the fact that you have the original thread - I do not doubt your word. However Powerline seems to also be quoting directly from the thread in question. Members at Swiftvets do have the ability to edit posts and it is possible that the comments Powerline quoted were edited out prior to your having seen the thread - I just don't know.

For my part, I'm simply putting two and two together from what I know has been discussed at Swiftvets and the Powerline blog. Hence my having qualified my original post in this thread with the words "My guess is...".

40 posted on 10/29/2004 2:16:50 PM PDT by Smoote
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