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Pint-sized cattle are a Cuban revolution
The Scotsman ^ | 14 Sep 2004 | ANDREA RODRIGUEZ

Posted on 10/28/2004 3:13:00 PM PDT by sociotard

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To: Moonman62

Moonman, wasn't the farm at Greatersford Prison one of the first to produce Beef-allos back in the 70's?


21 posted on 10/28/2004 3:33:11 PM PDT by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: daviddennis

Ah, yes, food. That's a very good point. Lets see, A gallon of whole milk is between $2.50 and $3.00 in my area. Ergo, this would only be worth it if you could feed the cow on less than $2.50 a day. I'll admit to knowing nothing of agriculture, so does anyone know how much hay 2.50 would buy? Do you think it would be enough to feed one of these dwarfish things?


22 posted on 10/28/2004 3:34:42 PM PDT by sociotard (I am the one true Sociotard)
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To: Mr. Lucky
This is only newsworthy in a country without a private market farming sector, without refrigeration, without transportation, without capital and without hope.

That's your opinion. As a kid growing up in the late 50's, early 60's, we had a milk cow that we pastured on the vacant land next door. We fed out & butchered the offspring & ate fresh home-made butter & drank lots of natural milk with no growth hormones & who knows what all other icky chemicals in it. We weren't ''without refrigeration, without transportation, without capital'' and we sure as hell weren't ''without hope.''. And no one had to explain to us where milk comes from either.

23 posted on 10/28/2004 3:35:26 PM PDT by elli1
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To: blackdog
The only driver for dairying with cows is strictly volume and market acceptance.

I remember my Mother making goats milk gravy and we always had barbecued goat on the fourth of July.

I believe that if more people tried it, it would be more market acceptable.

24 posted on 10/28/2004 3:40:16 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: sociotard

A gallon of whole milk is between $2.50 and $3.00 in my area. Ergo, this would only be worth it if you could feed the cow on less than $2.50 a day.

When you add in SS, Medicare & FICA taxes, you have to ''earn'' considerably more than the cost of the milk. (The butter/ cream is a bonus.)

25 posted on 10/28/2004 3:41:45 PM PDT by elli1
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To: sociotard

I want my pot-bellied elephant!


26 posted on 10/28/2004 3:42:40 PM PDT by tdewey10 (The democratic party is on the verge of starting a new civil war.)
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To: elli1

bump


27 posted on 10/28/2004 3:43:22 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: sociotard
Milk is running around $18 per hundred weight. That's around $1.00 per gallon. It's traditionally around $13.00 per hundred weight class A.

A cow produces around 60 to 70 pounds a day averaged out over the lactation period. Feed costs run about $10 per head per day without a labor component. Dairying is not the bidness to go into to get rich.

There is something to be said however for fresh milk being available from a family farm from cows or goats.

28 posted on 10/28/2004 3:44:15 PM PDT by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: elli1
My 6 brothers and sisters and I grew up drinking unpasteurized, unhomoginized, no vitamin D added, straight from the cow (and goat) and we all made it. We weren't poor either.
29 posted on 10/28/2004 3:45:26 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: elli1
originally posted by elli1
When you add in SS, Medicare & FICA taxes, you have to ''earn'' considerably more than the cost of the milk. (The butter/ cream is a bonus.)

I was talking about the savings on milking your own cow instead of buying milk, not selling it. As I understand it, you don't pay taxes on the milk your cow produces if you don't sell it. Clearly, this would be a purchase for a household, not a full size dairy.

30 posted on 10/28/2004 3:46:26 PM PDT by sociotard (I am the one true Sociotard)
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To: Graybeard58

We do TB test the goat once a year.


31 posted on 10/28/2004 3:47:51 PM PDT by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: DannyTN

Most cattle in sub-tropical regions are much thinner than their well fed and cooler American cousins.


32 posted on 10/28/2004 3:50:35 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: elli1
Excuse me for raining on your idyllic memories of childhood, but I live on a farm and own cows.

Assuming a 305 day lactation cycle, an average American Holstein milk cow will produce over 21,000lbs of milk per year, or almost ten times the milk the Cuban government claims for one of these little critters, plus the bull calves can be fed out for beef production.

Except as a pet, or curiosity in the vein of the Vietnamese pot-belly pig, (or as a propaganda story foisted on a naive and willing media) This animal would serve no economic purpose in a free 21st century society.

33 posted on 10/28/2004 3:50:58 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Moonman62
About a fifteen hundred years ago, my ancestors shared a one-room wattle-and-daub hut with the livestock.

Amazing that the pinnacle of communism is to reinvent the idea.

Pass.

34 posted on 10/28/2004 3:52:04 PM PDT by patton (Die Frau haette sich keine Sorgen dabai, aber meine Freundin wuerde mich sofort um die Ecke bringen!)
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To: blackdog
Dairying is not the bidness to go into to get rich.

That is putting it mildly.

35 posted on 10/28/2004 3:53:16 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: sociotard

You're talking about a tropical region. There are weeds that grow 6 inches a week down there. Clear cut areas in the Caribbean would be completely overgrown in 10-15 years with oppurtunistic "weed" species if humans and grazing animals were removoed from the environment.

That being said, the Cubans should be driving a newer sub-compact American or Asian car to their local supermarket which should have refrigeration, 24 hour electricity, and a food selection at least equal to that available in the Dominican Republic. Instead they breed cattle. This is what America's deep green anti-civilization environazis want here in the USA.


36 posted on 10/28/2004 3:56:25 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: sociotard

Well, just as a frame of reference, consider how much it costs to feed a large dog. I would guess it would be similar. Unfortunately, I can't comment on this question since I don't have a dog.

In Cuba, where all the world's a shortage, I don't see it working out.

D


37 posted on 10/28/2004 4:13:36 PM PDT by daviddennis (;)
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To: sociotard
I'll admit to knowing nothing of agriculture, so does anyone know how much hay 2.50 would buy?

I'm not sure, but I do know that you need to milk them the same time every day, otherwise the milk production suffers.

Fortunately, it's only in leap years that that you have to do that 366 days a year. Other years you can get by with 365 days a year getting up at 5 AM, so you can be in the barn and started by 6 AM, And of course you have to be there again at 6 PM every afternoon.

Again, if you do decide to do this, it's only 7 days a week, not the 8 days a week the Beatles sang about! It will only SEEM like 8 days a week,

38 posted on 10/28/2004 4:13:55 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberalism has metastasized into a dangerous neurosis which threatens the nation's security)
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To: patton

Yes but these little setbacks are good for humanity. Besides, the hydrogen/electric hybrid trucks can't haul real cows and real milk. Too heavy. Therefor the problem and solution is to counter evolve to farming with a stick in the dirt and to turn all the milk into cheese. Drinking milk is a reletively recent luxury to humanity. It was unheard of prior to refrigeration other than the farmers kids, who only got to drink what was left after the butter was churned out.


39 posted on 10/28/2004 4:25:08 PM PDT by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: Mr. Lucky
"This is only newsworthy in a country without a private market farming sector, without refrigeration, without transportation, without capital and without hope."

LOL. The idea of being off-grid, and self-sufficient in food, water, and energy has a certain appeal. At least that is until I try one of them.

40 posted on 10/28/2004 4:28:38 PM PDT by DannyTN
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