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CIA and FBI have authenticated al Qaeda videotape
http://drudgereport.com/ ^ | 10/28/2004 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 10/28/2004 7:03:38 AM PDT by stopillegalimmigration

Edited on 10/28/2004 8:05:05 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Betis70
Could you please provide your source for no tape being released before 9/11?

You want me to provide you with a source that states that videos were not released prior to 9/11?? LOL. You might want to read the post you replied to again. I was asking for sources that actually state that a tape was released prior to 9/11. I know there was one released afterward but cannot find reference to one being released prior. Your recollections aside.
361 posted on 10/28/2004 12:09:10 PM PDT by dmartin (Who Dares Wins)
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To: dmartin

So, I am wrong? There were no tapes released before the bombings? Is that what you are saying? Because that is what you claim in the original post. Bin Laden held a press conference in May 1998, where he spoke of "good news in coming weeks." This was 9 weeks BEFORE the African Embassy bombings. Furthermore, he released a videotape just a few weeks BEFORE the Cole Bombing. In this videotape, he was wearing a Yemeni dagger, and al-Zawahiri specifically called for attacks on U.S. forces in Yemen.
Furthermore, in the Summer before the 9/11 attacks, al Qaeda began circulating a videotape in the middle east and on the internet.


362 posted on 10/28/2004 12:30:43 PM PDT by freakboy
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To: gobucks
Here's a link as a starter: http://democrats.com/view.cfm?id=5942

Thanks for the link. It seems as if this tape was released in June of 2000. The author was writing in September of 2001 and referred to the tape 'surfacing last June'.

I do find it interesting that you would send a link supporting your position from a site that calls for the president's impeachment and buys into Michael Moore's conspiracy theories.
363 posted on 10/28/2004 12:31:41 PM PDT by dmartin (Who Dares Wins)
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To: freakboy
So, I am wrong?

No, I did not say you were wrong. I said that recollections are unreliable. Not just yours. Everyones. You then spent some time researching the chain of events so that you could write a response. I did state that I believed that no tapes were released prior to the attack. The tape that people recall seems to have been a collection of clips from previous tapes and had been floating around for at least a year.
364 posted on 10/28/2004 12:40:51 PM PDT by dmartin (Who Dares Wins)
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To: dmartin
I did state that I believed that no tapes were released prior to the attack. You say that recollections are unreliable, and you then say that you "believed" that no tapes were released. What is the difference between recollections and beliefs? Actually, you never said anything about believing in the original post. You said:

"Question : How many video taped warnings did Al-Queda give before 9/11? Answer : None."
In any case, here is a transcript of the Bin Ladin tape from May of 1998: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/interview.html
365 posted on 10/28/2004 12:46:24 PM PDT by freakboy
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

ABCNEWS EXECUTIVES CONSIDER POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS OF AIRING DISTURBING TERROR TAPE DURING ELECTION WEEK.

The tape has been verified. What's the hold up ABCDisney?

366 posted on 10/28/2004 1:01:18 PM PDT by weegee (George Soros has probably spent more on this election that many rock stars make in a year.)
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To: Toespi; Lizarde; gobucks

This was posted yesterday on TM.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1243381/posts?page=2080#2080


367 posted on 10/28/2004 1:19:19 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: dmartin

Then please support this statement of "fact" with something, otherwise it sounds like it is just your recollection, which appears to be as faulty as everyone else's:

"Question : How many video taped warnings did Al-Queda give before 9/11? Answer : None."


368 posted on 10/28/2004 1:41:38 PM PDT by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: Betis70
Then please support this statement of "fact" with something, otherwise it sounds like it is just your recollection, which appears to be as faulty as everyone else's:

LOL. Are you off your meds? There isn't any source or news article regarding a video prior to 9/11. The only video that appeared prior to 9/11 surfaced at least 15 months prior and was a collection of earlier videos. If you want to believe that there was a video because 'it cannot be proven that there wasn't a video' you go right ahead....
369 posted on 10/28/2004 1:55:26 PM PDT by dmartin (Who Dares Wins)
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To: freakboy
I did state that I believed that no tapes were released prior to the attack. You say that recollections are unreliable, and you then say that you "believed" that no tapes were released. What is the difference between recollections and beliefs? Actually, you never said anything about believing in the original post. You said: "Question : How many video taped warnings did Al-Queda give before 9/11? Answer : None."

Fine. I stand by my original post. There were no video taped warnings prior to the 9/11 attack other than a greatest hits video compilation released at least a year prior.

You obviously give the islamists a hell of a lot more credit than I do. I don't buy this garbage that they are going to warn us so we can watch it on tv.
370 posted on 10/28/2004 1:55:36 PM PDT by dmartin (Who Dares Wins)
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To: stopillegalimmigration

ABC withheld the final 15 minutes of the tape from the CIA, where the alleged terrorist warns about Bush, Cheney, federal sources tell DRUDGE... MORE


371 posted on 10/28/2004 1:55:52 PM PDT by FactsRFacts
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To: stopillegalimmigration

How about if we sent them a video of our own? One telling them in graphic detail what will happen if they even try it.


372 posted on 10/28/2004 2:28:47 PM PDT by Rollee (How many flips could a flip flop flop if a flip flop could flop flips?)
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To: dmartin

>>The only video that appeared prior to 9/11 surfaced at least 15 months prior and was a collection of earlier videos.

Ah I see. 15 months prior to 9/11 is somehow not "prior to 9/11" in your world.

Who needs their meds again?


373 posted on 10/28/2004 2:49:09 PM PDT by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: Betis70

LOL. Did you read my post before you began your reply? You obviously have a good deal invested in this idea. Thanks for the laughs and tell the other patients I said 'Hello'.


374 posted on 10/28/2004 2:55:01 PM PDT by dmartin (Who Dares Wins)
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To: All

Drudge:

WORLD EXCLUSIVE: ABC NEWS TO AIR TERROR TAPE ON WORLD NEWS TONIGHT AT 6:30 EST


375 posted on 10/28/2004 3:01:03 PM PDT by Mossad1967
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To: dmartin
I do find it interesting that you would send a link supporting your position from a site that calls for the president's impeachment and buys into Michael Moore's conspiracy theories.

wasn't really paying attention to source; haven't been a troll the whole time I've been here fwiw.

Ok, here's a link with proof about audio/video warnings: click here

and here: click here

Bottom line, over the last few years, the number of threats and warnings, video, audio, and web based, have increased. I distinctly recall that for the attack in Turkey, in Morocco, Spain, etc, there was shortly before that another 'warning'. In other words, it has been a long long time that an attack, esp al queda attack, has occurred and our reaction has been 'hey, you didn't warn us!' what a total suprise!!

9-11 wasn't a surprise to anyone who had been following terrorists, and their warnings, since the 1993 wtc attack. (Aq queda had been publishing all kinds of threats, which we were simply ignoring) The 93 attack was the last 'true' surprise ... at least for me. In the last couple of years esp, there has always been some kind of tape, that is issued, such that w/i about 8 weeks an alqueda type attack occurs somewhere.

Furthermore, the gov't, state dept also chimes in too before the attack.

All this is basically moot if we don't see an attack w/i the next two months. I think we will, ESPECIALLY if the US Gov't issues a specific warning.

376 posted on 10/28/2004 3:21:12 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: dmartin
Bin Laden sent a video to a Kuwaiti newspaper three months before 9/11:

From his hideout in Afghanistan, bin Laden has continued to issue threats against the United States and to use his penchant for grand symbolism. "With small capabilities, and with our faith, we can defeat the greatest military power of modern times," he said in a videotape sent to a Kuwaiti newspaper three months ago. "America is much weaker than it appears."
--September 13, 2001
Newsday.com

source: http://www.newsday.com/ny-wobin2363661sep13,0,2259891.story

Do you still stand by your original post?
377 posted on 10/28/2004 4:37:01 PM PDT by freakboy
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To: Lizarde

...regarding your post #5. He'll "handle it" just like he's handled border security....just present the US population with a little dog and pony show. Just like his boss wants him to do.


378 posted on 10/29/2004 4:37:46 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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