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Secret Weapon for Bush? (Bush probably had a higher I.Q. than Kerry per military records)
NY Times ^ | 10/24/04 | JOHN TIERNEY

Posted on 10/23/2004 7:52:58 PM PDT by Cableguy

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To: Max Combined

Isn't Raines the editor of the Guardian Rag that wants to do bad things to our President???


61 posted on 10/23/2004 8:22:47 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Cableguy

Steve Sailer's analysis:

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/kerry_iq_lower.htm


62 posted on 10/23/2004 8:23:58 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: Cableguy
"People will often be misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something complicated they can't understand," Professor Gottfredson said.

I have a plan.

63 posted on 10/23/2004 8:24:27 PM PDT by It's me
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To: Cableguy
"The true test is not where you start out in life, but what you do with those God-given talents."

That may be quite true, but where does it leave Kerry? What has he done that makes him out to be such a genius? Working as a politician all his life and marrying wealthy women is certainly clever, but it doesn't engender a whole lot of respect from most people. Does Kerry's life story really make him seem smarter than Bush? I don't think so.

Besides, even if he where a certified genius, I'd still vote against him because he's a liberal Democrat. I don't care how smart he is, he's still wrong as hell about everything he believes.

64 posted on 10/23/2004 8:24:47 PM PDT by Batrachian
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To: ProudVet77

I agree...we should see MSM getting in line with what has been going on outside the beltway for quite a while. They have gone about as far as they can go with Kerry and now they will try to salvage what little is left of their credibility!


65 posted on 10/23/2004 8:25:21 PM PDT by BlessedAmerican (Pray for our President and those who are fighting to preserve our freedom!)
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To: tdewey10
Point taken. Most college professors (PHDs) vote the Dem ticket...which should (obviously) be attributed to their lack of wisdom, since you can't exactly call them stupid or low IQ (of course, most don't know their ass form a hole in the ground...).

However, they represent a small percentage of the Dem vote; there is still a great mass of (not to put too polite a label on it) low IQ folks who, due to their low socio-economic status and the fact that they can't reason thru the issues, reflexively vote Democrat. IMHO.
66 posted on 10/23/2004 8:25:50 PM PDT by Death and Taxes (Bush '04)
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To: jennyjenny

Yes, I have been to many Mensa meetings.


67 posted on 10/23/2004 8:25:59 PM PDT by MizRiz9
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To: Cableguy

bump


68 posted on 10/23/2004 8:26:01 PM PDT by God luvs America (Support Our Troops....Don't vote for Kerry!)
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To: april15Bendovr

Ver interesting. Our President not only did better than Kerry, but much better than CLINTON and both did better than Al Franken And Garafalo... Rush Limbaugh doesn't surprise me at all -- you can tell he's brilliant.


69 posted on 10/23/2004 8:26:39 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: jennyjenny
Have you ever been to a Mensa meeting? My guess is if you go to one, you may never go back again. :)

Ain't it the truth? Over the years, Mensa have become nothing more than a mutual admiration society. The Mensa Bulletin ain't worth reading anymore. The whole thing is not worth the money.

70 posted on 10/23/2004 8:27:14 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Blogger

Kerry probably bought someone to get those C grades for him, too.


71 posted on 10/23/2004 8:29:50 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet but found the solution)
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To: ProudVet77
The MSM is getting ready to turn on Kerry. They see he's a lost cause, so they are worried about their own butts now. *****************

That's waht rats - and scoialists - do...abandon the sinking ship

72 posted on 10/23/2004 8:29:52 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: hyperpoly8
It has already been reported that Bush had better grades at Yale than Kerry.

I have been told (repeatedly, even before 2000) that Bush was a poor student and only got "social promotion" types of grades. This comes from people who claim to know some of Bush's college roomates. The claim is that Bush was drunk and would have flunked were his family not so rich. FOAF stories aren't any more reliable in presidential politics than in UFOology, it seems.

These same people didn't like Bush in 2000, they think that his administration has been a disaster. (They do approve of the War On Afghanistan but not the War On Iraq.) For two years they have claimed that Bush has made things much more dangeroud by ignoring terrorists and going after Iraq. This group had been joined by a couple of former Bush supporters (who just didn't like Gore). They dislike Bush much more than Reagan (whom the disliked but respected; there's no respect for Bush.) They're even more intense than the Conservives were against Clinton (whom this group didn't like either.)

73 posted on 10/23/2004 8:30:05 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: jmstein7

hehe! Me, too, WAY!


74 posted on 10/23/2004 8:30:30 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet but found the solution)
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To: Cableguy
Michael Meehan, a spokesman for the senator, said merely: "The true test is not where you start out in life, but what you do with those God-given talents. John Kerry's 40 years of public service puts him in the top percentile on that measure."

If Kerry is truly "in the top percentile," it wasn't the "40 years of (dubious) public service," it was marrying two women with an combined fortune of at least 1.3 billion dollars. That's quite an accomplishment considering the power that makes him attractive to rich women has gone pretty much unused until now.

75 posted on 10/23/2004 8:31:29 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (FR got Rather and CBS. Drudge got Halperin and ABC. Be afraid, Tom Brokaw -- be very afraid.)
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To: Txsleuth
EEEK - I've always thought FReepers were smart but I didn't know how out of your league I am. Dang, is there a dumb FReepers site. All of this mensa talk scares me.

Out of my league? Are you kidding me? I'd much rather hang out on FR than a Mensa meeting. I didn't join Mensa. I went to a few meetings to check it out, and that was it. My husband did join, and is still a member, but never attends meetings. Personally, I don't feel the need to hang a Mensa plaque on my office wall letting everyone "think" I am smarter than they are. For me, I don't see the benefit of sending membership dues to a group such as this, but I know others feel differently. I'm really not in to arguing for sport.

76 posted on 10/23/2004 8:31:54 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: MizRiz9
Yes, I have been to many Mensa meetings.

Good. Then you start a Mensa thread. J

77 posted on 10/23/2004 8:32:47 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ProudVet77
The MSM is getting ready to turn on Kerry. They see he's a lost cause, so they are worried about their own butts now.

First one's true, the second one I take issue with. Here's why:

This is all going exactly how the media wants. All of them, including Fox News, are playing this as a "coming down to the wire" scenario. All indicators are starting to point toward the President having the momentum going into the last week of the election. Internals are looking real good. Hawaii is what made me think the MSM type polls are shifted to what ever they want it to be.

The point being, since they are all doing things in their own interest as any business should do (read that as whore's if you like), giving the appearance of a close contest is more interesting than the blow out it's gonna be. All this lawyer crap that's flying around and being hyped would be payday for media companies. The controversy would just increase their bottom line - ratings.

In the last week of the election the media is sensing a blowout. They know America doesn't think Kerry can protect us as well as the President. The internals show a wide lead for the Prez there, and it's only getting wider. There's just so much juicy stuff on Kerry that they have ignored, they could have a field day bringing him down. This Times piece is just a little taste. Imagine all the goodies the left wing media has on Kerry they could spring.

I'm not really seeing why a Kerry presidency would be all that great for the media, besides the controversies and scandals that it would entail. The terror attacks that would occur on our homeland might get some ratings, but surely that can't be a motivation.

78 posted on 10/23/2004 8:32:56 PM PDT by numberonepal (Cameras, ammo, arms, eyes, and ears on election day.)
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To: Cableguy
Cripe's!! I had a 138 IQ in grade school....probably 127-8 now! I cannot believe that sKerry had about 120! Wow, John....no wonder you said "ken I get me ah huntin' license here"!! You weren't kidding!

We lived in Portsmouth NH many years ago, and went to Boston several times and i was SHOCKED.....SHOCKED at how many HILLBILLIES there were in Boston!! I had expected uppity smart and got Hillbilly! I will NEVER forget that!

79 posted on 10/23/2004 8:34:05 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: The_Reader_David

I never took an IQ test, so I have no IQ.


80 posted on 10/23/2004 8:34:19 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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