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New 'El Niño' can bring Siberian winters
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| October 22, 2004
| Cato Guhnfeldt & Nina Berglund
Posted on 10/21/2004 5:15:54 PM PDT by NCjim
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Norway can face winters like those in Siberia if the Pacific gets a strong El Nino.
Paging Al Gore...
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:15:55 PM PDT
by
NCjim
To: NCjim
Ptarmigans will like it. They will dominate over the rabbits.
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:17:17 PM PDT
by
Ptarmigan
(Proud rabbit hater and killer)
To: NCjim
But but but......what about global warming??
Seriously, out here in Santa Cruz we're having a really really COLD Indian Summer. And I know that we're entering an El Nino cycle. Brrrrr!
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:18:09 PM PDT
by
EggsAckley
(.............TerriKerri = our Secret Weapon.............)
To: NCjim
So much for that global warming hoax. I'm sure the greenies will bring back the myth that our increasing pollution is blocking the sun. Bunch of morons.
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
You don't get it do you? These nastier winters are caused by global warming. :^)
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:20:22 PM PDT
by
MagnumRancid
(I cut it three times......It's still too short!)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
You don't get it do you? These nastier winters are caused by global warming. :^)
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:20:39 PM PDT
by
MagnumRancid
(I cut it three times......It's still too short!)
To: NCjim
The European global warming claims will reverse El Nino, no doubt.
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:33:45 PM PDT
by
b4its2late
(John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
To: NCjim
'El Niño'PS - How'd you get that little doohickey over the n?
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:34:40 PM PDT
by
b4its2late
(John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
To: NCjim
Just another beneficial effect of El Nino....
To: b4its2late
How'd you get that little doohickey over the n? It was in the article title that I copied and pasted.
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:37:23 PM PDT
by
NCjim
To: NCjim
Something bizarre happened in the global ocean at that time, the inverse of which happened in 1977-78. This is the cycle of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation. Due to extensive warfare and a dearth of satellite and other weather data, the exact time of the paradigm shift is not clear.
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:38:46 PM PDT
by
dufekin
(President Kerry would have our enemies partying like it's 1969, when Kerry first committed treason.)
To: EggsAckley
Seriously, out here in Santa Cruz we're having a really really COLD Indian SummerI've been complaining about the same thing 40 miles north of you. After a cold summer we have had virtually no Indian Summer, maybe three really nice days. After that last storm we're pretty sure that we won't burn to death this season, but I miss the beautiful October we usually have. It's Al Gore's fault.
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:40:49 PM PDT
by
pbear8
(We pray for a landslide)
To: dufekin
That makes a reversal about every 35 years - I wonder what data points exist before 1942?
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:41:33 PM PDT
by
NCjim
To: Ptarmigan
Ptarmigans will like it. They will dominate over the rabbits.
LMAO. I like this theme you have going. :^)
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:43:49 PM PDT
by
LiberalBassTurds
(Islam is a religion of peace. Strange every murdering psychopath in the world is attracted to it.)
To: NCjim
Bush was keeping "El Nino" in a secret hiding place, just so he could unleash it before global warming hit.
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:47:41 PM PDT
by
Jim_Curtis
(Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
To: b4its2late
The ñ can be inserted by using this code:
ñ
For instance: Niño will cause result: Niño
For more info: Go Here
(Scroll down)
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posted on
10/21/2004 6:00:50 PM PDT
by
Fiddlstix
(This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
To: NCjim
Yes, there are data points before 1942. The oscillation has a positive phase and a negative phase. Each phase has a brief (few year) pause close to the midpoint.

Records prior to 1948 deteriorate rapidly with age. Temperature data for Alaska, the state most affected by the oscillation, is of notoriously poor quality (with little station continuity) in the early 20th century.
Worse, the paleoclimatic evidence and station records that do exist suggest that the oscillation was damped significantly during the 19th century. Of course, this phenomenon helps to explain the warm weather since 1978 in Alaska. If indeed the oscillation were damped in the 19th century, this phenomenon alone probably explains almost all of the effects that The New York Times attributes to "global warming."
Some models actually show the shift in 1946 instead of 1942. Given the data, it's not easy to tell.
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posted on
10/21/2004 6:01:08 PM PDT
by
dufekin
(President Kerry would have our enemies partying like it's 1969, when Kerry first committed treason.)
To: b4its2late
'El Niño'
I use a 1970 IBM Selectric Composer to do that.
To: NCjim; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
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posted on
10/21/2004 6:04:46 PM PDT
by
farmfriend
( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
To: Fiddlstix
Thanks. How do you find all this "stuff"?
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posted on
10/21/2004 6:06:46 PM PDT
by
b4its2late
(John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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