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Women’s Wrongs - Repealing prostitution laws won’t help anyone.
National Review ^ | October 21, 2004 | Donna Hughes

Posted on 10/21/2004 12:09:37 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 10/21/2004 12:09:37 PM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...

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2 posted on 10/21/2004 12:12:10 PM PDT by NYer ("The road to hell is paved with the skulls of Bishops." St. John Chrysostom)
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To: NYer
Legalization would mean the regulation of prostitution with laws regarding where, when, and how prostitution could take place.

Already is legal. The Supreme Court has done away with sex laws (at least for those over age of consent). Constitutional privacy concerns keep the government out of the bedroom. Regulation would only place a government official in there.

If a babysitter can come over to your home in violation of child labor laws, payroll taxes, and licensing requirements, two consenting adults can have sex for money.

3 posted on 10/21/2004 12:13:42 PM PDT by weegee (To the MSM: "There's got to be a morning after" How can you face us after the lies and distortions?)
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To: cpforlife.org; scripter; little jeremiah
The impact report says that from 2002 to early 2004 there was a 57-percent increase in calls for police service regarding prostitution.

The adult entertainment industry and pornographers have endorsed John Kerry as their candidate for the presidency, and one pro-family advocate has gone to some lengths to find out why.

Kerry Campaign Keeping Quiet on Obscenity Issue

4 posted on 10/21/2004 12:15:34 PM PDT by NYer ("The road to hell is paved with the skulls of Bishops." St. John Chrysostom)
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To: NYer

>>Few's personal background is, tragically, typical for a woman in the sex industry: incest, child abuse, runaway (at age 13), high-school dropout, domestic violence, rape, and stripping — all before she entered prostitution.

I think that with the new permissiveness of society, this common profile will change.

It's already acceptable for people to engage in amateur porn. Young women are having sex with both men an women -- and it's promoted as being "cool".

It's not hard for many of these women, who don't fit the typical mold, to make the leap from free sex to paid sex -- especially while they work their way through college.

And if a woman is beautiful, the money is severly tempting. Some [beautiful] escorts make $30,000 per month having sex with as little as 20 johns. Many quit for periods of time, try to go straight, but when money get's tight they jump right back into it. They simply cannot earn the same amount of money any other way.

I think that in five years, the majority of [non street walking] prostitutes will simply be women who hold the idea that it's all simply business. (Note, I'm not talking about druggie street walkers, I'm talking your "higher end" prostitute -- paid escorts/amateur porn starts).


5 posted on 10/21/2004 12:19:18 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: NYer

My evil side says "let this pass". Then let the conservative documentarians go in and record the stupidity of such freedom. Again, on the evil side, this would be a great wedge issue for the next election cycle.


6 posted on 10/21/2004 12:19:30 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: weegee

How many junked cars do you have in your front yard. I'm not insulting you, just wondering.


7 posted on 10/21/2004 12:21:41 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: NYer; All
There is no reason for prostitution not to be legal. There are quite a few people who are unable to find a partner for sexual relations. Why should the old, ugly or disabled be prevented from sexual pleasure?
People should not be deprived of their status as sexual beings simply because they are unable, under normal circumstances, to have normal human functions and urges fulfilled.
When was the last time you looked at someone in a wheelchair, hideously disfigured, or extremely elder as a potential companion or someone you would be romantically involved with?
8 posted on 10/21/2004 12:23:25 PM PDT by olde north church (Charity begins with "C" if it's the first word in the sentence, "c" if it's not.)
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To: NYer

My ex-postal carrier got married and with her husbands knowledge took a part time job working in a strip club. Her average wage for two evening was $1,000.00+. In three years they were able to afford a luxurious home....cash. One more year and they had a substaintial investment account.

That was when they decided to have children. They now have two beautiful boys whom she stays home to care for. They intend on homeschooling the kids because of their distaste for the public system.

Never in the seven years I have known her has she ever used foul language or behaved like a slut. Her and her husband have attended the same Catholic church as my wife does.

I am giving this example because while I wouldn't want my wife or daughters to do it, it certainly put them 15 years ahead of others who prefer to work the normal tracks of our economic system.

There is financial advantages for those who decide to take the scorned paths in our society.

I am not defending her actions, just giving an example that I am personally aware of.


9 posted on 10/21/2004 12:24:53 PM PDT by B4Ranch (´´Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; They are our teeth for Liberty)
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To: B4Ranch; All

>>Few's personal background is, tragically, typical for a woman in the sex industry: incest, child abuse, runaway (at age 13), high-school dropout, domestic violence, rape, and stripping — all before she entered prostitution.

I think that with the new permissiveness of society, this common profile will change.

It's already acceptable for people to engage in amateur porn. Young women are having sex with both men an women -- and it's promoted as being "cool".

It's not hard for many of these women, who don't fit the typical mold, to make the leap from free sex to paid sex -- especially while they work their way through college.

And if a woman is beautiful, the money is severly tempting. Some [beautiful] escorts make $30,000 per month having sex with as little as 20 johns. Many quit for periods of time, try to go straight, but when money get's tight they jump right back into it. They simply cannot earn the same amount of money any other way.

I think that in five years, the majority of [non street walking] prostitutes will simply be women who hold the idea that it's all simply business. (Note, I'm not talking about druggie street walkers, I'm talking your "higher end" prostitute -- paid escorts/amateur porn starts).



10 posted on 10/21/2004 12:26:33 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: B4Ranch

>Never in the seven years I have known her has she ever used foul language or behaved like a slut

You haven't paid her to strip, and you haven't been behind closed doors with her. You don't know what you don't know.


11 posted on 10/21/2004 12:27:23 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: NYer

How could socialist Berkeley legalize prostitution as it would encourage free enterprise and profit? It would be more in keeping with Berkeley to to make it legal to give away sex or have it provided for the common good by the government, but make it totally illegal to profit from it. I suppose they could justify the action if the workers (i.e. the prostitutes) totally controlled the means of production (sex), but outlawed pimping as that would be worker exploitation by capitalists seeking to make profits from the labor of others.


12 posted on 10/21/2004 12:33:08 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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Prostitution (and drugs) should be legal (however, I don't partake in either). It is a personal responsibility issue. For "The State" to dictate what I do in my own home (or with a consenting adult) so long as I don't hurt anyone else is an infringement on my freedom.

Prostitution is the "world's oldest profession" for a reason and it isn't going away. You can now shop for a call girl online and as an earlier poster mentioned, it's now a business (a friend of mine worked vice and they just googled "Escort" and the city). Even an "average" call girl can make minimum of $5k a month with 20 johns (yet another reason for scrapping the current tax system and going to a national sales tax).

I'd suggest for those of you that believe government should be the moral arbiters of society, that you worry more about what goes on in your home and less about what goes on in your neighbor's home.


13 posted on 10/21/2004 12:37:52 PM PDT by LiberalSlayer99 (Follow-Up)
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To: LiberalSlayer99
I think the State of Nevada has the best approach to this "situation". My views on abortion are well known, and these ladies are "pros", hence not a problem. Besides, ladies working in a legal "house", have no need of pimp, therefore one more unemployed Democrat. I don't believe it's Gods plan for anyone to engage in that profession, but the Christ I know loves them as much as anyone. Street walkers of course should be illegal as it is in Nevada. AND I guess there's just enough Democrat in me to recognize a new tax source.
14 posted on 10/21/2004 12:49:50 PM PDT by investigateworld ((Oh,Father watch over our service men and women, they are so young and so far from home))
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To: Constantine XIII

I am not advocating the legalization of prostitution. I am just giving you a taste of what the activist Supreme Court decision on sodomy meant.


15 posted on 10/21/2004 12:52:12 PM PDT by weegee (To the MSM: "There's got to be a morning after" How can you face us after the lies and distortions?)
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To: The Great RJ

A pimp is not an employer. He's more of a slave owner. The women give him ALL the money.

In return, he gives them clothes, a place to stay, promotion, and legal/medical coverage until he decides otherwise (or another pimp takes one of his women). He will track down a girl who leaves his pool.


16 posted on 10/21/2004 12:55:30 PM PDT by weegee (To the MSM: "There's got to be a morning after" How can you face us after the lies and distortions?)
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To: 1stFreedom
It's already acceptable for people to engage in amateur porn. Young women are having sex with both men an women -- and it's promoted as being "cool".

Amateur sex starts with webcams at home and trips to "Mardi Gras" type celebrations. "Girls gone wild" is considered "acceptable" by the mainstream media now.

How many reality shows have shots of contestants giving a lap dance (clothed) to one another?

17 posted on 10/21/2004 12:58:37 PM PDT by weegee (To the MSM: "There's got to be a morning after" How can you face us after the lies and distortions?)
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To: weegee

Agreed. Prostitution should be regulated.


18 posted on 10/21/2004 1:04:40 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: olde north church

...and does your co-pay cover the cost of all the vaccines, herpes treatments, aids clinics, thousands of illegitimate children, divorce courts, lawsuits, et al? Nooooo, the GOVERNMENT will cover it.


19 posted on 10/21/2004 1:13:27 PM PDT by infidel29 (Before the political left, we were ALL right.)
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To: infidel29; All

Why are you wasting your time here when your skills as a clairvoyant are so urgently needed in other places?


20 posted on 10/21/2004 1:32:46 PM PDT by olde north church (Charity begins with "C" if it's the first word in the sentence, "c" if it's not.)
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