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Posted on 10/20/2004 9:37:10 PM PDT by big bad easter bunny
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To: big bad easter bunny
Pass this on. Only 42 days until the election. Pass this on. Your calendar needs winding...
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posted on
10/20/2004 9:42:15 PM PDT
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: big bad easter bunny
Been passed on - all over the internet for the last month.
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posted on
10/20/2004 9:43:39 PM PDT
by
clee1
(Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
To: big bad easter bunny
I am pretty new to FR. Is this posted every flippin' day?
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posted on
10/20/2004 9:44:44 PM PDT
by
uncleshag
(Send the light)
To: big bad easter bunny
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posted on
10/20/2004 9:47:51 PM PDT
by
sport
To: big bad easter bunny
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posted on
10/20/2004 9:50:00 PM PDT
by
SquirrelKing
("I have to march because my mother couldn't have an abortion." - Maxine Waters (D-California)
To: big bad easter bunny
I lose track of FRtime lots, too.
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posted on
10/20/2004 9:50:07 PM PDT
by
txhurl
To: big bad easter bunny
Actually I am curious myself about Haliburton. Could no one else have done this same work? Why are American labourers being sent to Iraq when the Iraqi people can and should be doing the work? I guess it just appears as a conflict of interest.
To: Lord Nelson
Clinton intervention in Serbia-bad. Bush intervention in Iraq-bad. Republicrat intentions-bad.
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posted on
10/20/2004 10:06:10 PM PDT
by
meenie
To: Izzy Dunne
To: Lord Nelson
Actually I am curious myself about Haliburton. Could no one else have done this same work? Pretty much, no. Its why Kerry and Edwards may rip Haliburton, but they don't name replacements. Over on the "other website", they wrestled this question for awhile.
I don't know if its pathetic, or stupid, but the closest companies they could think of (of similiar size and scope) that compete with Haliburton or could compete, were french companies, and a couple of them have ties to Victor Boot.
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posted on
10/20/2004 10:23:10 PM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: big bad easter bunny
13 days my friend. Good job in recounting the vile hypocrisy of our totalitarian brethren. Commit to liberty!
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posted on
10/20/2004 10:23:19 PM PDT
by
stefanbc
(Have a nice left-wing suicide)
To: Sonny M
Playing the devil's advocate, the biggest economy in the world has no other firms available to go into Iraq to rebuild?
For instance there were charges being laid that a bridge that costs 100 million for Americans to build could have been built by Iraqis for 10 million.
To: stefanbc
Did you read what I put in for date published? I read on this site every day and I swear I never read it!
To: Lord Nelson
1) Haliburton is a company, a large organization structured to perform large and complex tasks; it's not "American labourers".
2) There were a whole bunch of things that needed to be rebuilt as soon as possible.
3)There were no massed Iraqi resources lined up to rebuild much of anything; they are still trying to create non-state initiative and capabilities two years after.
4) Haliburton, large organization etc., is paying wages to a whole lot of Iraqis and other non-Americans who would otherwise not be employed.
5) By restoring or building new infrastructure as fast as possible the rest of the country (Iraq) has a chance to start back up the cultural and economic ladder.
6) Haliburton, Brown & Root, PA&E, there is always someone in business to take charge of managing tasks within a crisis zone; big bucks but a necessary capability.
7) Outsource to the French? No way, stick with someone you know and can trust (somewhat).
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posted on
10/21/2004 4:36:28 AM PDT
by
norton
To: Sonny M; Lord Nelson
There are pretty strict requirements for "sole source" contracts. The contractor has to be the only one capable of meeting all the requirements of the work, on time and within budget. Otherwise they have to go through the competitive bidding process.
I had a sole source contract once, because I had a particular skill set plus personal availability. They could have let several contracts for different tasks to several different people. There were people who could perform tasks 1 and 3 of 5, and others who could perform task 2 only, or 4 and 5 only, but they would then have been faced with meeting impossible deadlines for finding people and letting contracts for emergent work, and it would have been a constant struggle, a big mess, and would have cost them a lot more money--or they could just give me the contract and get everything in one bundle.
It was pretty much the same sort of thing for Halliburton. They looked at the scope of work, and made a decision (documented) that Halliburton was the only firm available, able, and willing to take on the whole package.
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posted on
10/21/2004 5:58:46 AM PDT
by
dsc
To: dsc
Thanks. I had always wondered if the US had legislated rules concerning government contracts to avoid cronyism.
To: norton
I will take your word for it that they are employing Iraqis. At the time it had the appearance of wrong doing, so I was surprised Bush didn't make an effort at that time to assure Americans that all was kosher with the deal. In this age of cynicism about politicians (we all know the lobby game that is played in Washington) it is important to communicate to the people about these things. After all it was Cheney's company.
I don't blame Bush from not wanting to give a single contract to France. At least some nations were polite about not helping in Iraq - I guess the French are never polite.
To: big bad easter bunny
Thanks for the post....I read this site everyday as well. This is a great post....with 12 days remaining.....some points cannot be mentioned enough.
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posted on
10/21/2004 7:49:13 AM PDT
by
all4one
(With the new poll numbers coming out, what did Kerry say to Edwards? - - "It's Over Johnny")
To: Lord Nelson
Playing the devil's advocate, the biggest economy in the world has no other firms available to go into Iraq to rebuild? In a word, yea. Scary as it may sound (and it should). If the lefty's can't find alternatives who are able, in size, scope, and skill, then obviousley Bush won't be able to.
Its quite likely that Clinton did try to find competitors, he was unable, No senator as far as I have followed has been naming alternates. The silence is deafening.
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posted on
10/21/2004 11:07:15 AM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
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