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NY TIMES: Letter Supports Anti-Kerry Bid Over Abortion (Kerry Excommunication)
The New York Times ^ | October 19, 2004 | PAM BELLUCK

Posted on 10/18/2004 9:42:39 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

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To: Boundless

LOL!!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 10/18/2004 10:00:40 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota
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To: AmarilloMorning
You know where I think we're headed? To an abortion Oct Surprise with Bush. If in fact there is fire behind the smoke on that rumor, Kerry and his hacks will absolutely uncover it.

Amarillo, I used to drink and post.

It never worked out.

Post, or drink. But don't mix the two.

There is no "Bush abortion" October Surprise. That's a secret that's too big to keep.

22 posted on 10/18/2004 10:01:27 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I swim with the alligators in the fevered swamps of traditionalism. " Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: bayourod

Thanks for the ping.


23 posted on 10/18/2004 10:02:59 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota
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To: Saltmeat
She hides behind the "I am personally opposed to abortion but I believe in the right to a woman's choice." I am sure if the issue were slavery she would take the same position.


Whoa! THAT is a great analogy.
That would put it in perspective.
24 posted on 10/18/2004 10:03:27 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Dessert pot lucks on V-day)
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To: sinkspur

We'll see. I will hold you to this post. Don't you think that those mean-spirited Kerry people have something planned for the last three weeks? Whay do you imagine they have?


25 posted on 10/18/2004 10:03:53 PM PDT by AmarilloMorning
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To: COEXERJ145

I agree it blew up in their face, but it took awhile to do that. If they drop it at the 11th hour, is there enough time for it to backfire?


26 posted on 10/18/2004 10:05:10 PM PDT by AmarilloMorning
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To: AmarilloMorning
"You know where I think we're headed? To an abortion Oct Surprise with Bush"

Possibly.

The pattern of the DNC & Old Media, especially CBS has been to accuse Bush of whatever Kerry is accused of.

An example is that they responded to the SiftVets' ads by attacking Bush's National Guard service.

So look for them to accuse Bush of being a sinner. Could be the old rumor that he gave a woman a ride to an abortion clinic or maybe claiming that his killing of civilians in Iraq condemns him to hell. But it will definitely be some religious attack.

27 posted on 10/18/2004 10:05:20 PM PDT by bayourod (Old Media news is poll driven, not event driven, not fact driven, not newsworthy driven.)
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To: sinkspur

True or not, believe that the dumbocrats will pull out anything with a modicum of credibility behind it (proveable or not). They are desperate, desperate, desperate.

When the candidate himself is pulling out the race, lesbian, draft and social security cards, instead of letting DNC hacks spread the fear, you know that they are worried.


28 posted on 10/18/2004 10:05:24 PM PDT by Thickman (Regis to Kerry: "Is that your final answer?")
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To: AmarilloMorning
would be amazed if they don't drop it
**if they're dumb enough after the Mary Cheney trial balloon. It would have great potential of backfiring - and there wouldn't be time for them to climb up out of it Kerry has shown the country he'll throw out anything to win - that's what people know
29 posted on 10/18/2004 10:09:26 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Dessert pot lucks on V-day)
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To: bayourod

Well we know they think this is a ginning up the base election. The Mary Cheney strategy was designed to keep evangelicals home. Kerry has responded with everything dished at him with fire. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth led to Texans for Truth . The POW Wives led to unhappy guard wives and crying mothers of KIAs.

Isn't there even a soldier who lost his arm in Iraq starring in a Lefty 527 ad saying he lost his arm for Bush's lies?

I think this "Kerry is a bad Catholic thing" (which he plainly is) will push Kerry to look into the abortion rumor even harder than he would have. Kerry can't afford to lose Catholics and can't afford to have Bush's base come out in full force.

How could such a charge be disproved if some chick bribed by Soros said she aborted Bush's kid on the eve of the election?


30 posted on 10/18/2004 10:12:04 PM PDT by AmarilloMorning
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To: maine-iac7

Yes he has, but I think Kerry is going to drop something. The election is so close and Kerry has no morality. He might even want to win more than Gore did. I put nothing past Kerry at this point.


31 posted on 10/18/2004 10:13:11 PM PDT by AmarilloMorning
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To: AmarilloMorning

Matt Drudge said on his radio show yesterday that he has a feeling the Dems will release the Abu Gharib tape of US soldiers raping a boy. I hope not, but wouldn't put anything past cBS and the Dems. Let's just hope Rove has an Oct. surprise as well.


32 posted on 10/18/2004 10:13:56 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: AmarilloMorning
You know where I think we're headed? To an abortion Oct Surprise with Bush. If in fact there is fire behind the smoke on that rumor, Kerry and his hacks will absolutely uncover it.

Even supposing that Bush were involved with an abortion sometime in his past, could he not point to his life since he was born again in Christ and remind people that Christ came to cleanse people of their sins?

One thing Democrats don't understand is that almost all "surprises" from the past can be dealt with quickly and easily with a simple haiku:

Yes I did that once.
'Twas incredibly stupid.
I am wiser now.
Of course, one has to be able to show by one's actions since performing the action in question that one has learned from it, but I think almost anything Bush could possibly have in his past could be dealt with this way.

Kerry, by contrast, refuses to repudiate his past actions even when people widely recognize them to have been heinously wrong. If Kerry hadn't been running on his war record, and had admitted his anti-war actions in the past were stupid, he might be able to put even a dishonrable discharge behind him in the eyes of most voters. But he continues to maintain that his VVAW actions were right and proper. So he can't make them go away.

33 posted on 10/18/2004 10:15:36 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: Thickman

Hey that reminds me, give us credit here in SD for pinning down Daschle to our flyover state!!!!!!!!


34 posted on 10/18/2004 10:15:46 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota
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To: Saltmeat

I have never thought of it that way. But it is an exellent anology.


35 posted on 10/18/2004 10:16:14 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I thought and hope that the people who raped the Iraqi boy were Iraqi contractors with the US military. That changes everything. I sure hope it wasn't a US soldier.

Even if it was, it would show beyond a shadow of a doubt that that unit was behaving contrary to regulations. Rummy and the chain of command didn't tell them to rape the Iraqis.

I think Abu Ghraib has pretty much played itself out-- it hurt Bush as much as it could.

I think they are going to target Bush's likability and personal integrity with some charge about his past. They figure those qualities of Bush's are what's keeping him afloat, I think they will drop something to hurt how the public perceives him in the last three weeks. I hope I am wrong, but I seem to be able to predict what the Dems will do.


36 posted on 10/18/2004 10:21:26 PM PDT by AmarilloMorning
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To: supercat

Oh, I think so. But the DUI did hurt him that final weekend.

I sure as Hell won't hold it against him-- I've already voted for him anyway. But I'm not the person they are directing such an attack to. They would want to drive down enthusiasm amongst evangelicals and conservative to moderate Catholics and with soft Bush voters and the undecideds.


37 posted on 10/18/2004 10:23:36 PM PDT by AmarilloMorning
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To: AmarilloMorning
OK you've convinced me. Let's take preemptive action.

I'll find some slut who will say Bush knocked her up and then forced her to have an abortion.

We negotiate playing CBS and Nightline against each other in order to stall for time and keep them from pursuing other sluts.

The night the expose' is to be aired we hold a last minute press conference with the slut admitting it's all a lie and that Kerry paid her to lie.Caprock High

38 posted on 10/18/2004 10:30:15 PM PDT by bayourod (Old Media news is poll driven, not event driven, not fact driven, not newsworthy driven.)
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To: AmarilloMorning
"I seem to be able to predict what the Dems will do"

Could you give us an example of prior predictions -- here on this very forum, and under this very pseudonym -- that have proven to be true? It appears that you haven't participated in these discussions before 10/15/2004, at least not under the current pseudonym.

I mean no disrespect, but we don't really have much of a verifiable track record with which to work.

39 posted on 10/18/2004 10:35:49 PM PDT by Resolute
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To: AmarilloMorning
I sure as Hell won't hold it against him-- I've already voted for him anyway. But I'm not the person they are directing such an attack to. They would want to drive down enthusiasm amongst evangelicals and conservative to moderate Catholics and with soft Bush voters and the undecideds.

Perhaps. But I would hope those people would realize that the whole purpose of Christ coming to earth was to cleanse people of their sins. God no longer cares about the past sins of people who have accepted Christ and been purified through him. If God has forgiven someone's sins, what right does anyone have to condemn that person allegedly on God's behalf?

40 posted on 10/18/2004 10:37:51 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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