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USA Today: Bush surges in poll
USA Today | 10/17

Posted on 10/17/2004 4:05:36 PM PDT by ambrose

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To: ambrose
"In a poll taken Thursday-Saturday, Bush received 52% support from likely voters, Kerry received 44% and independent Ralph Nader received 1%. Three percent of likely voters had no opinion."

Somehow I doubt that last sentence. What it sounds more like was that Bush, Kerry, and Nader were the only choices given, and that 3% of the respondents (or most of that 3%) preferred someone else.

21 posted on 10/17/2004 4:18:55 PM PDT by inquest (We have more people patrolling Bosnia's borders than we have patrolling our own borders)
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To: ambrose

Bush surges in poll.

Oh my goodness!

How many days til election?
I pray Bush's lead widens.


22 posted on 10/17/2004 4:19:05 PM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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To: biggiant1

> I'm from Taxachusett and the lawn sign score here is 50 -
> 50. I will consider it a moral victory if W get 45%.

It's important for every Bush supporter everywhere to
vote, even if they are in an unlikely or slam-dunk state.

The popular vote total matters from a PR perspective.

And given the current poll trends, incipient October
Surprises, and who-knows-what events, ANY state could
find itself in play.


23 posted on 10/17/2004 4:19:41 PM PDT by Boundless (Was your voter registration sabotaged? Don't find out Nov. 2. Vote early.)
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To: stockstrader

Everyone should watch out for the DNC's "Emergency Plan." We may think they could not sink any lower, in terms of tactics, but just wait. They won't take this news in a horizontal position.


24 posted on 10/17/2004 4:23:17 PM PDT by The Doctor
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To: ambrose

Great! I wonder how many points Dubya will have to win by in order to get rats to give up on their secret "Plan," i.e., to tie up the election in the courts? I'm guessing we're going to need a fairly convincing landslide, and I think it may just be in the offing. It's gonna be sooooooooooo sweet!


25 posted on 10/17/2004 4:25:39 PM PDT by LibWhacker (Got a flu shot shortage? You can thank Kerry's running mate.)
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To: Roberts
That's an awesome number at this stage of the campaign if true.

While there's no way to ever determine the truthfulness of a poll, this is the time of the year when polling firms have the greatest incentive to be as accurate as possible. They know that soon people will be measuring their last few polls leading up to the election against actual results.

26 posted on 10/17/2004 4:27:23 PM PDT by Wolfstar (John Kerry may trust the enemies of America, but the American people just can't trust John Kerry.)
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To: Boundless
The popular vote total matters from a PR perspective.

I think — or at least hope — a lot more people understand that this year than they did four years ago.

27 posted on 10/17/2004 4:29:33 PM PDT by Wolfstar (John Kerry may trust the enemies of America, but the American people just can't trust John Kerry.)
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28 posted on 10/17/2004 4:30:37 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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To: inquest
3% of the respondents - may also be in the "goofey" undecided group -

This 3% may not even vote, assuming they do a 2 to 1 split for kerry would still have "W" winning by a wide margin.

29 posted on 10/17/2004 4:32:32 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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I think Rove saved the "too liberal" charge for the last few weeks of the campaign so it wouldn't become trite.

Like "flip-flopper".

30 posted on 10/17/2004 4:33:10 PM PDT by tgiles
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I wonder if anyone has the historical Gallup poll results? It would be interesting to see if anyone has had an 8 point LV lead in their poll 16 days out and then lost. I doubt that has happened.


31 posted on 10/17/2004 4:33:12 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: LibWhacker

Kerry will never give the old concession speech. Not in his bones. What an arrogant b%stard.


32 posted on 10/17/2004 4:33:41 PM PDT by NeonKnight
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To: ambrose
I am fearful of ANY news that appears to be good for President Bush!!!! They (MSM) have steadfastly refused to carry anything good for or helpful to him for the last four years. Why would they suddenly be touting his 'surge' in the poll. I have to ask myself what they could be up to! Maybe they want to goose the Dems to get out the vote. They could figure that if it appears Bush is surging that it would panic a lot of libs into making the effort to vote. Sorry, but I don't trust the bastards! Whatever it is, you can bet your bottom dollar it's not good for the President!

</paranoid mode>
33 posted on 10/17/2004 4:34:02 PM PDT by jwpjr
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To: jwpjr
I was just thinking the same things. I think they are trying to sabotage us, lull us into complacency.

I don't trust 'em.

34 posted on 10/17/2004 4:35:59 PM PDT by riri
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To: ambrose

Somebody explain this to me ... we get several "national" polls every day, but they don't really matter. We do not elect the President by nationwide popular vote! Polls in "battleground states" would be much more significant, but they are slower than molasses. What's up with that?


35 posted on 10/17/2004 4:36:26 PM PDT by big time major leaguer
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To: ambrose
Holy crap. I sure didn't expect this. That debate bounce sure disappeared in a hurry, didn't it?

I guess we'll see more ads from moveon.org this week bitching about the Gallup Poll. :^)

36 posted on 10/17/2004 4:37:33 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Proud to be a Reagan Alumna!)
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To: big time major leaguer
One could logically infer that the MSM not reporting on current "battleground states" polling is a result of kerry making a poor showing in the nine or so states still up for grabs!
37 posted on 10/17/2004 4:40:50 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: ambrose

Don't get too excited yet, folks. This is good news, mind you, but a poll that is far ahead of other recent polls merits skepticism until it's backed up by more data.


38 posted on 10/17/2004 4:43:33 PM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: sungkilmoon

Okay, have I been asleep? What name?


39 posted on 10/17/2004 4:45:31 PM PDT by tiki (Win one against the Flipper)
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To: jwpjr

Your concern is understandable but i think at some point the media will write off this year (perhaps this is the beginning of it) as they start to see that Kerry probably won't win. They might even go so far as to jump on the Bush bandwagon and that way they can later say "see, we did have favorable coverage for the President and therefore we are well justified in saying that we are not biased and that you can trust us to be unbiased when it comes to covering that great Senator and possible first woman president (which of course is long overdue) from New York".


40 posted on 10/17/2004 4:48:38 PM PDT by Humbug (whew i finally thought up a really clever tagline..how do you like it?)
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