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1 posted on 10/17/2004 1:09:27 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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Does politics trump religion? That's a tough question. In this case, I'd say no. Bush and Cheney aren't gay themselves, and there's little Cheney can do about his adult daughter's sexual choices. Arguably he comes across as more of a Christian by not rejecting her, than he would if he shut her out of his life.

But if a candidate is gay or divorced or has had an abortion, or is doing drugs, or is having extramarital sex, but agrees with you on the issues, do you vote for that candidate? It's a slippery slope, isn't it? Those who oppose divorce in principle will vote for candidates who have been divorced, but a candidate who's currently indulging in activity that one finds reprehensible won't win one's vote.

I don't think one can say that politics trumps religion or vice versa. One can tolerate or overlook or forgive people's conduct up to a certain point but not beyond it. Ask Jack Ryan in Illinois about this.

As concerns Jews and Israel, are Zionism and Sharon really a matter of religion or of another sort of politics? And perhaps there's a feeling that both candidates make the same basic committment to Israel. With many Catholics politics and self-interest do seem to come out on top. It may be because Catholicism isn't so much a religion as an ethnic identity or affiliation with such people.

Protestants pick and choose which denomination they wish to belong to and their religious committment is reflected in their political choices. With Catholics (and Jews and Muslims) the situation may be different. What they are in religion is less a matter of individual decisions and more something they can't avoid or escape (it's the same way with Protestants in Catholic countries and with minorities elsewhere). Also, Protestantism has historically been more individualistic. With other religions there may be more of a social or group concern that leads to different choices in politics.

Does religion always offer one single and unambiguous answer to political questions? Or do religions contain ideas, injunctions, and prohibitions that can give different or conflicting answers? Or if religion does give one clear answer to each question, can those answers be easily translated into politics? In Christianity at least, it may be hard to reconcile the various prohibitions and injunctions, strong moral laws being combined with a call to move above the demands of law in the name of faith and charity.

31 posted on 10/17/2004 10:32:04 AM PDT by x
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Zev Chafets is right on. I'm not sure if many of the posters who have commented understand a thing about Zev Chafets, he's been a very vocal supporter of President Bush. Read his columns here to get a better picture.
32 posted on 10/17/2004 10:36:12 AM PDT by MoJo2001 (Pi R squared? Nooo! Pie R round, Cornbread R squared!)
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